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Who knew that we had an NFL Pro Bowl yesterday? (Original Post) underpants Jan 2019 OP
Not really high profile True Dough Jan 2019 #1
One other difference is that the baseball players can play much closer to 100% without risking ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #2
Baseball players also have something to play for, so that helps. bearsfootball516 Jan 2019 #3
The bad thing about the baseball All Star game exboyfil Jan 2019 #6
I just found out there was an NHL All Star game underpants Jan 2019 #4
The NHL skills competition is a lot of fun True Dough Jan 2019 #12
Get rid of it and have a third place game. bluedigger Jan 2019 #5
Third place games don't work exboyfil Jan 2019 #7
Bronze medalists in many sports would disagree. bluedigger Jan 2019 #10
Point taken but the Olympics exboyfil Jan 2019 #11
And football is different than other pro sports in the US. bluedigger Jan 2019 #13
I don't think players or teams would want to play in it. bearsfootball516 Jan 2019 #14
Didn't know the NFL had a Silver Medal. stopbush Jan 2019 #17
Or have the worst two teams play for an honorable mention. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2019 #8
And it shall be called the Toilet Bowl Angleae Jan 2019 #21
In this age where even high profile college players exboyfil Jan 2019 #9
I watched the game casually. stopbush Jan 2019 #15
No kickoffs? underpants Jan 2019 #16
They placed the ball at the 25-yard line to start the game/half stopbush Jan 2019 #18
It was nothing but a casual payday exhibition scrimmage Brother Buzz Jan 2019 #19
I knew but didn't care. Iggo Jan 2019 #20
I still watch the MLB all-star game because at least it somewhat closely approximates the real game. hughee99 Jan 2019 #22

ExciteBike66

(2,293 posts)
2. One other difference is that the baseball players can play much closer to 100% without risking
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:54 AM
Jan 2019

injury.

The football players looked like they were playing flag football out there, since no one (rightly) wants to get injured for no good reason.

I have the luxury of ignoring the probowl since my team usually doesn't participate.. Go Pats!

bearsfootball516

(6,372 posts)
3. Baseball players also have something to play for, so that helps.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:08 AM
Jan 2019

As of 2017, the winning side gets home field advantage in the World Series. So for players who are on teams that have a shot at the World Series, it's advantageous for them to go all out to win.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
6. The bad thing about the baseball All Star game
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:39 AM
Jan 2019

Is using pitchers up so that can't make their next start. That has a potential impact on the standings. To counteract that they use them only for a few innings. That leaves them short if the game goes into extra innings.

Still some team always has an advantage by one extra home game. Deciding the location based on the All Star game is as good or better than alternating it or flipping a coin. Given that there is interleague play now, I wonder if they should base it on interleague play (head to head or common opponent record?).

underpants

(182,559 posts)
4. I just found out there was an NHL All Star game
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:38 AM
Jan 2019

and it took me a while to figure out that they had a 4 team playoff.

Not a hockey fan obviously

True Dough

(17,243 posts)
12. The NHL skills competition is a lot of fun
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:07 AM
Jan 2019

The all-star game, however, has changed formats recently and left some fans yearning for the single team Western vs. Eastern conference clashes of the past. Having a mini-tournament is a bit odd.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
11. Point taken but the Olympics
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:03 AM
Jan 2019

are different than high profile college and pro sports in the US. The Bronze developed an intrinsic worth that predated big time US sports. In high profile US sports we don't have losers brackets (unless you count the football college national title where teams who don't win their conference still get in). The FCS football schools don't have consolation games either.

Here is an interesting article about the 3rd place US men's basketball team in the 2004 Olympics.

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/29/sports/summer-2004-games-basketball-men-s-bronze-medal-game-us-manages-hold-off.html

bluedigger

(17,085 posts)
13. And football is different than other pro sports in the US.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:26 AM
Jan 2019

Limited schedule of games, and an exhibition game scheduled after the regular season instead of in the middle, which makes it irrelevant to both fans and players. A third place game could work in football.

bearsfootball516

(6,372 posts)
14. I don't think players or teams would want to play in it.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:09 PM
Jan 2019

Teams in the playoffs are pushing for the Super Bowl, not third place. No player is going to risk tearing his ACL and being out for the entire next season to win third place.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
9. In this age where even high profile college players
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:47 AM
Jan 2019

bow out of Bowl games, I can't see a reason for a Pro football all star game. The sport is too dangerous. Unlike baseball which is only marginally a team game or basketball whose offensive and defensive schemes are far less complex, football is an extremely complex tactical game. What goes on in the Pro Bowl has no semblance to an actual football game.

stopbush

(24,388 posts)
15. I watched the game casually.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:35 PM
Jan 2019

No kick offs, no blitzing, no tackling per se.

I couldn’t help thinking I was witnessing the future of the NFL.

Brother Buzz

(36,356 posts)
19. It was nothing but a casual payday exhibition scrimmage
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 03:09 PM
Jan 2019

Each player on the winning Pro Bowl team receives $67,000, while each player on the losing squad earns $34,000.

But it could be considered exciting if you like KISS plays, halfhearted blocking, quarter-speed tackling and zero sincerity.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
22. I still watch the MLB all-star game because at least it somewhat closely approximates the real game.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:14 AM
Jan 2019

The Pro-Bowl and the NBA all-star game are jokes. I do like the "skills challenges" for the NBA and NHL.

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