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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 04:06 PM Jan 2019

Anyone hate New England like I do?

Man the Chargers look like a High School Football Team!

I hate the Patriots... Giant Fan I am... Not much to be happy about with Giants as well!

Living in L.A.... Learning to like the Rams..
Been out her for 30 yrs...from Ny obviously!

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Anyone hate New England like I do? (Original Post) busterbrown Jan 2019 OP
Not me Soxfan58 Jan 2019 #1
Mercy rule at the half? exboyfil Jan 2019 #2
They'll be motivated by this game..For sure! busterbrown Jan 2019 #4
Did you watch yesterday's Chiefs Colts game? PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2019 #10
Hope so exboyfil Jan 2019 #12
Hell yea demtenjeep Jan 2019 #44
Excellent point PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2019 #46
I have been praying, we are wearing our lucky clothes-even the dog demtenjeep Jan 2019 #47
Dallas also rickford66 Jan 2019 #3
I just loved yesterday's game! busterbrown Jan 2019 #5
Nope. Loving every minute! MANative Jan 2019 #6
Can't deny the Patriots' greatness calguy Jan 2019 #7
Yep! busterbrown Jan 2019 #9
"plus he could probably clear out a bar in a fight" ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #30
Patriots fan but it kills me that Bellichek and Brady are right wing dem4decades Jan 2019 #8
Not so sure about Brady Being Right Wing busterbrown Jan 2019 #11
Brady isn't rightwing. He do support friend or people that suck up to him like Trump. Blue_true Jan 2019 #19
"Robert Kraft flies Parkland shooting victims' families to Washington on Patriots plane" sir pball Jan 2019 #22
Then I stand corrected. Happily. dem4decades Jan 2019 #23
Tom Brady had a MAGA hat in his locker room JonLP24 Jan 2019 #40
Yea I appreciate what you stated. busterbrown Jan 2019 #45
Life long Pats fan here. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #13
Thank God the Giants took away 2 Superbowls from them.. busterbrown Jan 2019 #14
I thought both losses were due to bad game plans by Pats NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #15
What? You won't at least give me that? busterbrown Jan 2019 #16
I think he is the best color guy! NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #17
Yep. A loss normally starts with a bad plan. nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #20
I'm not crazy about Romo Soxfan58 Jan 2019 #24
Cheaters.... gainesvillenole Jan 2019 #18
Not a football fan, watch on occasion, don't understand the hate for the Pats.. mitch96 Jan 2019 #21
I don't understand the hate for the team. Blue_true Jan 2019 #36
No hate feelings for any sport team...too insignificant today.. Maxheader Jan 2019 #25
Everyone zipplewrath Jan 2019 #26
My hate is reserved for Stan Kroenke...and Donald Trump...can't allow any more hate into my life. Moostache Jan 2019 #27
Face it,Bellicheat has a Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #28
I was listening to a show about the Patriots at the beginning of the season - tight ship. LisaM Jan 2019 #29
Your post is right on. Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #31
Yes...hate the cheating repuke Patriots. Go Giants! Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #32
I dislike the Patriots because of Belichick ! busterbrown Jan 2019 #33
Mine goes back to growing up in CT and having Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #35
Sick of the Pats, sick of Tom Brady. louis-t Jan 2019 #34
"Pats are not "America's Team"." mitch96 Jan 2019 #37
Not "American team". I said "America's Team". louis-t Jan 2019 #38
Point taken... mitch96 Jan 2019 #39
I have been a long time NE hater for decades, nothing pleases more than watch them lose beachbum bob Jan 2019 #41
Stupid patsies! Wawannabe Jan 2019 #42
Mahomes has this demtenjeep Jan 2019 #43
I have nervous optimism demtenjeep Jan 2019 #48

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
2. Mercy rule at the half?
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 04:10 PM
Jan 2019

The Patriots do this every year. I think they will carve up KC next week as well. Maybe the KC offense can keep up.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
10. Did you watch yesterday's Chiefs Colts game?
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 04:33 PM
Jan 2019

The Colts did not get a single first down in the entire first half. The Chiefs scored on their first four possessions. Plus, they've broken the playoff curse. This is a brand new team, complete with essentially a rookie quarterback who set (and broke) a whole lot of records all season.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
46. Excellent point
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:49 AM
Jan 2019

All during the regular season the offensive line in front of Mahomes didn't do a very good job of protecting him, and still they won all those games, got a first round bye and so on and so forth. They were vastly better last week.

And while the Patriots are a pretty good team, Arrowhead is considered to be the loudest stadium in the entire NFL, and anyone who thinks tomorrow's cold will slow down or mute the fans, doesn't understand the fans.

They waited 30 years to win a second World Series. 50 years for another Super Bowl seems about right.

And no matter the outcome of tomorrow's game, Patrick Mahomes has only started his career and has already put up numbers that many Hall of Fame quarterbacks would envy.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
47. I have been praying, we are wearing our lucky clothes-even the dog
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 05:31 PM
Jan 2019

We haven't been this close since 1969

also, I made all the same foods as last week.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
9. Yep!
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 04:29 PM
Jan 2019

I just hate Brady..... Handsome as hell.. Best Q B maybe ever, Beautiful wife,
plus he could probably clear out a bar in a fight...(Tough Guy)

ExciteBike66

(2,336 posts)
30. "plus he could probably clear out a bar in a fight"
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:17 PM
Jan 2019

He has to be able to fight, since he cannot outrun anyone!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Brady isn't rightwing. He do support friend or people that suck up to him like Trump.
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 06:25 PM
Jan 2019

His wife has publicly stated her dislike for Trump.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
22. "Robert Kraft flies Parkland shooting victims' families to Washington on Patriots plane"
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 09:58 PM
Jan 2019
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/robert-kraft-flies-parkland-shooting-victims-families-to-washington-on-patriots-plane/

He also left letters onboard -

"On behalf of the New England Patriots organization, I want to express our support as you travel to Washington for this weekend's March for Our Lives," the letter reads. "In the wake of incredible tragedy, we have hurt for you, mourned with you and been inspired by you. It is an honor for us to now partner with you as you push for progress. Your community is stirring our country towards a better future. That is the true mark of a patriot. Thank you for your leadership and inspiration. Best wishes as you prepare to takeoff on your journey."



JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
40. Tom Brady had a MAGA hat in his locker room
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:00 PM
Jan 2019

And went on to praise Trump's "accomplishments".

Robert Kraft is a longtime friend of Trump he said he was the only one to give him a call for a year after his wife died to check how he's doing.

--

“The problem we have is, we have a president who will use that as fodder to do his mission that I don’t feel is in the best interests of America,” said Kraft, who is a longtime supporter of Mr. Trump’s. “It’s divisive and it’s horrible.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/04/25/sports/nfl-owners-kaepernick.amp.html

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
45. Yea I appreciate what you stated.
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 01:48 AM
Jan 2019

I'm not so sure that Brady is right wing.. I think he's starting to get it!

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
14. Thank God the Giants took away 2 Superbowls from them..
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 04:42 PM
Jan 2019

If they win the SuperBowl this year... Best team Ever... No Doubt!

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
16. What? You won't at least give me that?
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 04:57 PM
Jan 2019

Ha! By the way... Bad Game Plans are always a huge part of losses...

By the way... Tony Romo is the worst Color guy ever... and I kind of like him..Always seemed like a good guy!

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
17. I think he is the best color guy!
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 05:04 PM
Jan 2019

Great insight, interesting. Worst...Fouts! And the ESPN guy...Witten. zzzzz

gainesvillenole

(121 posts)
18. Cheaters....
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 05:48 PM
Jan 2019

The New England Patriots are proven and admitted cheaters on multiple occasions..... Enough said.


mitch96

(13,891 posts)
21. Not a football fan, watch on occasion, don't understand the hate for the Pats..
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 07:41 PM
Jan 2019

Seems they look like they know what they are doing.. Do they cheat or something?? Just buy the best players? Kickbacks?
m

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
36. I don't understand the hate for the team.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:14 PM
Jan 2019

The Coach, maybe, but he is a complex dude, an anti hunger campaigner, build playing fields for poor kids, supports Trump, complete dichotomy.

The owner is a big charity giving guy, best buds with Trump and John Bon Jovi (who despises Trump).

But how the team prepare: they just out think and out work everyone else, with about six cases over 18 years where they lost big games, and two of those losses, to the Giants in the Super Bowl, were a razor edge from being wins.

BTW, I want to comment on the football inflation controversy. Anyone that know anything about gas chemistry know that gas contracts in cold weather, footballs and other balls in the elements become softer, which is what happened with all of the footballs that were exposed in the Patriots-Colts AFC Championship game. The NFL ran a measurement program the season after, but destroyed the data without reporting it, I am pretty sure I know what was found out, and that would have embarrassed the NFL after it spent millions to fine Brady.

Maxheader

(4,372 posts)
25. No hate feelings for any sport team...too insignificant today..
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 03:39 PM
Jan 2019

But I heartly dislike the patriots for all the cheating..stealing communications from the other teams...air pressure...beligcheck running out onto the field before the game is over..the one he lost and ended his
perfect season....I'm not a big saints fan either...something about a team that puts bounty's on other teams players.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
26. Everyone
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 03:48 PM
Jan 2019

Pretty much every football fan who isn't a Patriots fan. It's mostly just a matter of degree.
The cheating makes it easier to hate 'em.

My two favorite NFL teams? The Lions.
And whomever is playing the Pats.

(Yeah, old joke).

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
27. My hate is reserved for Stan Kroenke...and Donald Trump...can't allow any more hate into my life.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 03:56 PM
Jan 2019

I will celebrate with champagne on the day each of them die and given the chance, I would gladly urinate on their graves as well...

As for the Patriots, the thing that bothers me about their success is the sheer volume of help the opposing teams and coaches have provided to them...to wit:

2002 - Rams - played into Belicheck's hand by Mike Martz refusing to run the ball (with Hall of Famer Marshall Faulk and Hall of Famer Orlando Pace available...), instead forcing throws against 7 and 8 DB looks for nearly the entire game (side note - this was also still the era where the referees allowed the Pats to cheat on defense and mug receivers by swallowing the whistle and sticking their flags in their asses - same thing they did to Manning and the Colts several times)...Pats win on last second FG, also greatly abetting Brady's drive to FG range by playing soft, "prevent" coverages...

2004 - Panthers - tied the game at 29...promptly kicked the ball OB and gave the Pats the ball at the 40 yard line with timeouts and perfect conditions...result? 2nd time Vinateri wins game on last second kick.

2005 - Eagles - McNabb started hyperventilating and vomiting on the field during the last chance drive that sealed another 3 point win for the Pats...this one was the LEAST amount of help given to them during their run of titles...

2015 - Seahawks - Carroll's decision to NOT hand the ball to Lynch on the 1 yard line, instead throwing a pass that was picked off, was reminiscent of his decision to NOT have Reggie Bush on the field in the USC-Texas Rose Bowl game years earlier...just DUMB AS A BOX OF ROCKS coaching GAVE THAT AWAY!

2017 - Falcons - 28-3 lead? AND THEY LOST???? All they had to do was RUN THE BALL and NOT TAKE SACKS...instead? Ryan takes late sack (HAS to know better than that, HAS to!!!), loses FG position with 8 point lead that would have iced the game and instead allowed the comeback to be completed. A hideous choke job that NONE of those players - Ryan, Jones, et al. - will EVER recover from...

The SB losses to the Giants and the Eagles just so happened to be the 3 times their opponent did NOT choke or help them win the game in mind numbing manners. Greatest ever? Bah! The Steelers of the 70's, Niners of the 80's or Cowboys of the 90's would dominate them.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
28. Face it,Bellicheat has a
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 03:58 PM
Jan 2019

Coaching system in place that works better than others. His players must practice or they will not play. Plain old school Coaching.

Practice practice practice tell you get it right .

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
29. I was listening to a show about the Patriots at the beginning of the season - tight ship.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:05 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Whomever I was listening to on the radio, an ex-player, I think, said that when they show up to camp, the first rule is: know all the rules. Then they go over all the rule changes and learn them.

Just an example of why they win - attention to detail (remember when Donovan McNabb did not know that a pro game could end in a tie, for example, so his game ended up in a tie?)

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
31. Your post is right on.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:19 PM
Jan 2019

Going up in Wisconsin,we knew Bellichek's style of Coaching as the Ade Olson Coaching School that was taught at the University of Wisconsin and latter at one of the State Universities.

Practice practice btw,in full pads.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
33. I dislike the Patriots because of Belichick !
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 04:53 PM
Jan 2019

and the fact that they are so good!

Dallas... Another Story... Jerry Jones and the Fact that its Texas... Makes me hate this team..

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
35. Mine goes back to growing up in CT and having
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:19 PM
Jan 2019

The Giants, with a lead, leave the Cowboys 2 minutes, and us screaming "Nooooooo" and always getting beat.

Haha...yes Patriots win too much.

Are you Yankees or Mets?

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
34. Sick of the Pats, sick of Tom Brady.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 05:04 PM
Jan 2019

Pats are not "America's Team". Every team is America's team. Unfortunately, I think they will make it to Super Bowl. KC looks really beat up. They beat the Colts handily but Colts were pretty beat up, too. I'd much rather see KC in the Super Bowl.

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
38. Not "American team". I said "America's Team".
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 05:17 PM
Jan 2019

It's how they are billed. And I said all teams are America's teams. I deal with this crap all day long. Someone twists what I say and then questions it, or mis-states what I said and then starts an argument. I send questions to people and they answer a different question. I ask 2 questions, they answer only one. Try to keep up. Jeez.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
41. I have been a long time NE hater for decades, nothing pleases more than watch them lose
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 09:56 AM
Jan 2019

I hoping for a KC vs LA Ram Superbowl as a rematch of this years' "greatest game played"

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