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dimbear

(6,271 posts)
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 05:58 PM Jan 2014

Key Findings about the growing religious hostilities around the world (Pew Poll....)

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/17/key-findings-about-growing-religious-hostilities-around-the-world/
(snip)
By Angelina Theodorou

Pew Research Center has been tracking religious restrictions and hostilities around the world since 2007. Our new report found that a third of the 198 countries and territories studied in 2012 had a high or very high level of social hostilities involving religion, the highest share in the six years of the study. These hostilities – defined in the study as acts of religious hostility by private individuals, organizations or groups in society – increased in every major region of the world except the Americas. Here are some top findings:

religious-restrictionsThe number of countries with religion-related terrorist violence has doubled over the past six years. In 2012, religion-related terrorist violence took place in one-in-five countries (20%), up from 9% in 2007.
(much more at link)
Dimbear: a rehash of the recent Pew data, but a concise summary with some particulars heightened.
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Key Findings about the growing religious hostilities around the world (Pew Poll....) (Original Post) dimbear Jan 2014 OP
Has the number of countries with economic-realted terrorism increased or decreased? rug Jan 2014 #1
Given the fashion for terrorism in the world today, likely increased also. dimbear Jan 2014 #2
Yes, edhopper Jan 2014 #3
No, we should do it because it would be stupid to ignore, deliberately or otherwise, reality. rug Jan 2014 #4
And what is your reality? edhopper Jan 2014 #6
Reality doesn't take the second person possesive. rug Jan 2014 #7
What is the reality you speak of edhopper Jan 2014 #8
Economic reality. rug Jan 2014 #9
I think that edhopper Jan 2014 #12
No Danish cartoonist was killed over a Mohammed cartoon. rug Jan 2014 #13
the pro-life movement is because of economics? edhopper Jan 2014 #14
The criminalization of abortion is economics based. rug Jan 2014 #15
so you think the Pope edhopper Jan 2014 #16
He doesn't. The Koch brothers do. rug Jan 2014 #17
And the religious convictions of the billions of people edhopper Jan 2014 #18
I find "poppycock" and "ridiculous" to be persuasive arguments. rug Jan 2014 #19
Not arguments edhopper Jan 2014 #20
Apt is in the eye of the beholder. rug Jan 2014 #21
Difficulty with reading comprehension? edhopper Jan 2014 #22
The difficulty is not mine. rug Jan 2014 #23
I did post this a few days ago and it didn't draw much attention. cbayer Jan 2014 #5
The latest outrages in Afghanistan should focus our attention toward these core problems.... dimbear Jan 2014 #10
Yes it should. It should also be noted that religious intolerance is cbayer Jan 2014 #11

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
2. Given the fashion for terrorism in the world today, likely increased also.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 06:15 PM
Jan 2014

Proportionately is another question.

edhopper

(33,543 posts)
3. Yes,
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 06:15 PM
Jan 2014

because as progressives, we are never also concerned with inequality and economic plight.
We should just ignore the terrorism and other harmful things the survey talks about brought on because of religion because, you know, tolerance.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
4. No, we should do it because it would be stupid to ignore, deliberately or otherwise, reality.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 07:28 PM
Jan 2014

edhopper

(33,543 posts)
12. I think that
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 08:40 PM
Jan 2014

religion plays a very big roll in terrorism.
I think it would be foolish to discount the religious teachings motivation for many terrorists.

Do you think the bombings of abortion clinics in this country were due to economic grievances?

The killing of the Danish cartoonist over the Mohammed cartoons was economics?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
13. No Danish cartoonist was killed over a Mohammed cartoon.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 08:54 PM
Jan 2014

You're thinking of Westergaard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Westergaard

He was attacked by an associate of Harakat al-Shabaab al-Mujahideen, which in turn is associated with al-Qaeda. Do you think al-Qaeda is a religious organization?

He was also threatened by a psychiatric patient.

The clinic bombings have generally been the work of extremist individuals who are likely unhinged.

The larger question is whether the abortion wars are at root economic or religious. I say the former. What say you?

edhopper

(33,543 posts)
14. the pro-life movement is because of economics?
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 09:03 PM
Jan 2014

Every religious terrorist is actually doing it to for a reason other than they claim?

Islamic fundamentalists like the Taliban have nothing to do with religion?

I guess religious beliefs never really caused any troubles or harm, it was always everything but.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
15. The criminalization of abortion is economics based.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 09:20 PM
Jan 2014

It is a superb method of control and submission.

The pro-life movement began after abortion became legal and this method of control was lost.

Who do you think is behind it and why? Religious groups make handy footsoldiers but the goal here is the resumption of control, not the sanctity of life.

Oh, and the Tea party is not a grass roots movement either. Tea Party patriots are not patriots,

edhopper

(33,543 posts)
16. so you think the Pope
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 11:39 PM
Jan 2014

Wants to end abortion because he just wants to control the masses. Nothing to do with his religious beliefs?

edhopper

(33,543 posts)
18. And the religious convictions of the billions of people
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 10:24 AM
Jan 2014

who act because of their beliefs mean zero because the Koch Bros want something.
There would be no anti-abortion movement, no religious strife, no terrorism by pei\ople thinking they are doing Gods will if a few power brokers didn't pull their strings.

I'm done with this because it is pure poppycock. if you want to refuse to accept that religion and religious beliefs cause people to act, sometimes in very harmful ways, that's fine. But good luck trying to convince others of this ridiculous view.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
19. I find "poppycock" and "ridiculous" to be persuasive arguments.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 10:48 PM
Jan 2014

Good luck trying to convince anyone with that argument.

edhopper

(33,543 posts)
20. Not arguments
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:45 AM
Jan 2014

just apt descriptions of your arguments. I'll let others decide whether they agree or not with my assessment.

bu-bye.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
10. The latest outrages in Afghanistan should focus our attention toward these core problems....
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 07:52 PM
Jan 2014



and Iraq again...........

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
11. Yes it should. It should also be noted that religious intolerance is
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 08:00 PM
Jan 2014

more often than not at the core of these problems.

Since religion isn't going to go away, it would seem logical that increasing tolerance and understanding is where the efforts should lie.

The other major area obviously is theocracy, as the study shows. This seems to be an area where US support or non-support could make a difference.

But it's tough and it's been going on for a very, very long time.

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