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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:38 AM Jan 2014

Millennials Invent New Religion: No Hell, No Priests, No Punishment

http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/culture/7515/millennials_invent_new_religion__no_hell__no_priests__no_punishment/

January 29, 2014
By CANDACE CHELLEW-HODGE


Shiny, happy people

"Isn't it blasphemy to invent a religion?" my student asked with concern.

Every semester, in the comparative religion class I teach at a local community college, I ask my students to divide into groups and create a religion from whole cloth.

"All religions were invented at some point," I offered, reminding him that while Jesus may have assigned Peter to be the rock upon which the church would be built, it was up to everyone else to determine the details.

It's fascinating to watch the young (with a smattering of older) students invent a new belief system. I give them some guidelines: their religions must include some common elements such as doctrine, dogma, symbols, music, rituals—and most importantly, reformers.

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loudsue

(14,087 posts)
1. Wow. I would totally analyze this paragraph differently given the other factors:
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:51 AM
Jan 2014
Which brings us right back to what all these millennial religions lacked: leadership, community, discipline and a sense of a larger mission for their invented sect. It would be unfair to say that millennials do not appreciate discipline or that their actions have consequences; I found many of my students to be smart, industrious and willing to work hard.


It looks to me like they are foregoing the authoritarian part, and are separating out the marriage of religion and politics which we see so much of in today's world, that is causing so much trouble IN our world.

It may look more like the Occupy movement/philosophy, which I am in total agreement with: we need to see what works, not what "has been".

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
3. I think she goes on to make your point, so I'm not sure you disagree.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:25 PM
Jan 2014

She notes that what they reject is the idea of "rock star" leaders and rigid doctrine.

The OWS movement did seem to address much of that, but in some areas it fell into disarray because of conflict between leaders and fights over who was in charge.

The view of the millennials might be a bit utopian, but weren't we all at that age?

At any rate, what she is saying here should be heard by the groups (religious or not) who wish to grow their ranks to achieve a shared purpose.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
4. I admit, I quit reading after that paragraph...
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:35 PM
Jan 2014

I see I shouldn't have.

Actually, what the kids are putting together looks more like Christianity PROBABLY looked when Jesus lived and just after he died. Small groups discussing things together, and thinking (soberly) on them. The opposite of today's megachurch experience.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
5. That's an interesting concept.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:42 PM
Jan 2014

But it makes a lot of sense.

It also sound a lot like what we saw, and some of us did, in the early 70's - Peace and love with a generous helping of spirituality.

The megachurches definitely found their audience, but I think (hope?) they are on their way out.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
6. I live in the south. They are reproducing megachurches.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jan 2014

They're breeding them like rabbits, or more like roaches. More being built every day.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
7. Someone else reported that recently as well.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:51 PM
Jan 2014

We took a cross country road trip last year and did all back roads. Most of the trip was in the south, both going and coming, though we went through about 20 states.

While we saw some being built, we also saw quite a few that looked like they had been abandoned. I don't have any numbers of what is actually happening out there, but it would be interesting to see where they may be thriving and where they are dying.

The numbers about the "nones" are pretty irrefutable though. Young people are leaving organized religion in droves, even if they still consider themselves believers.

It will be interesting to see whether they are happy being unaffiliated or whether they will build something new.

Bad Thoughts

(2,514 posts)
8. Don't some of us argue that religion follows authority ...
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:17 PM
Jan 2014

... rather than creates it? It would make sense that the religion someone invents reflects the power structure that one would want to serve and the extent to which that power structure can be realized. The religion that "millenials" would build is only utopian in comparison to major religions, but it seems less so with regard to American political culture.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
9. I'm not sure I follow you here.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:41 PM
Jan 2014

What she says she found is that her students rejected authoritarian religious leadership and went for a more community based, possibly consensus driven, internal structure.

I'm not sure how this compares to american political culture.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
11. What I meant is that people in the age group she is referencing
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:56 PM
Jan 2014

tend to design and develop rather utopian ideas, like organizations without leadership, lack of negative consequences and a sense that things can be good all the time.

I know that is how I and others felt at that age.

TlalocW

(15,374 posts)
2. Only blasphemy if you're able to convince celebrities to join it
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:07 PM
Jan 2014

And plague the rest of us with their combined stupidity like L. Ron Hubbard.

TlalocW

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