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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:26 PM Mar 2014

Virginia girl’s style not feminine enough for Lynchburg Christian school

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/03/26/virginia-girls-toys-not-feminine-enough-for-lynchburg-christian-school/?tid=hp_mm

BY LINDSEY BEVER
March 26 at 3:23 am


Sunnie Kahle, an 8-year-old girl in Virginia has been told that she can not return to her Christian school because she looks like a boy.(Photo courtesy of WDBJ7)

Last week came the story of a boy in Buncombe County, N.C., who got bullied when he showed up at school with a “My Little Pony” bag. His public school told him to lose the bag — which outraged the cybersphere until the school relented.

Apparently, he wasn’t seen as masculine enough.

Now comes the story of a girl apparently thought by her school as not feminine enough.

It happened last month but is just now coming out – everywhere.

more at link

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Virginia girl’s style not feminine enough for Lynchburg Christian school (Original Post) cbayer Mar 2014 OP
The fundie school would have preferred to bully the girl in private, so instead they try to pin the SirRevolutionary Mar 2014 #1
Agree and the extra added benefit is that this school is going to get a whole cbayer Mar 2014 #3
Thankfully, it's created a huge backlash for the fundie school already SirRevolutionary Mar 2014 #12
Great links. thanks. cbayer Mar 2014 #13
There are posters mentioning how most of the grads from that school SirRevolutionary Mar 2014 #14
Religion atreides1 Mar 2014 #2
This school is extreme and I am glad that they are getting some press. cbayer Mar 2014 #4
This is what happens.... AnneD Mar 2014 #5
She will be better off out of this school, imo. cbayer Mar 2014 #7
She is being raised by loving grandparents.... AnneD Mar 2014 #8
And they did the right thing by taking her out immediately. cbayer Mar 2014 #11
What the hell is wrong with those people? She's EIGHT Warpy Mar 2014 #6
Chunky monkey? Likely to become quite a dish? cbayer Mar 2014 #9
And she is active too.... AnneD Mar 2014 #10
Her hair is cut short. Mariana Mar 2014 #16
Paul was a Roman and a misogynist who never met Jesus Warpy Mar 2014 #17
Please, tell it to the fundies who believe that shit. nt. Mariana Mar 2014 #18
The school teaches the inerrancy and infallibility of the Bible, which IMO suggests struggle4progress Mar 2014 #15
Does that make their beliefs any less valid than yours? n/t trotsky Mar 2014 #19
Your posts would be more interesting if you stated and defended particular views struggle4progress Mar 2014 #20
What particular view are you stating and defending? trotsky Mar 2014 #21
Your posts would be more interesting if you stated and defended particular views struggle4progress Mar 2014 #22
Thanks for making things clear. trotsky Mar 2014 #23
Your posts would be more interesting if you stated and defended particular views struggle4progress Mar 2014 #31
In the interest of fairness, I am posting the school's response here: cbayer Mar 2014 #24
Interesting how they are denying the reported facts, trotsky Mar 2014 #25
Exactly! get the red out Mar 2014 #28
If we apply the same standard as in the American Atheist notary thread Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #29
Well done, GM. trotsky Mar 2014 #30
My hair was shorter than her's HockeyMom Mar 2014 #26
Short hair get the red out Mar 2014 #27

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
1. The fundie school would have preferred to bully the girl in private, so instead they try to pin the
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:31 PM
Mar 2014

blame on public embarrassment on the grandparents. Sunnie will be much better off leaving that hate-filled "school" and hopefully it'll serve as an educational experience in dealing with fundamentalist mentality.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
3. Agree and the extra added benefit is that this school is going to get a whole
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:32 PM
Mar 2014

lot more attention than they probably anticipated.

They may have local support, but they are going to take an enormous amount of heat for this.

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
12. Thankfully, it's created a huge backlash for the fundie school already
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 02:26 PM
Mar 2014

WSET is a local news agency to the school. Look at the comments on the article http://www.wset.com/story/25061872/little-girl-taken-out-of-christian-school-after-told-shes-too-much-like-a-boy

A great deal of the comments show support for Sunnie and outrage at the school. And a good number of them would likely be locals.

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
14. There are posters mentioning how most of the grads from that school
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 02:36 PM
Mar 2014

end up going to Liberty University afterwards. So hopefully Sunnie will be spared further exposure to fundie brainwashing in the future.

atreides1

(16,076 posts)
2. Religion
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:31 PM
Mar 2014

Once again a group of narrow minded bigots hide their hatred of anything different, by saying it's God's will...their translation of the will of God!

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. This school is extreme and I am glad that they are getting some press.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:34 PM
Mar 2014

While they do appear to be narrow minded bigots, they in no way represent religion, as you subject line might suggest.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
5. This is what happens....
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:46 PM
Mar 2014

when people stop using common sense. On the side of public school, the parents can still take their kid to public and work to over turn the judgment, but the little girl can and will be dis-enrolled. I hate to see both obviously sweet kids have their hearts crushed.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
7. She will be better off out of this school, imo.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 01:09 PM
Mar 2014

Hopefully she will go somewhere that will embrace her for who she is.

Warpy

(111,253 posts)
6. What the hell is wrong with those people? She's EIGHT
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 12:46 PM
Mar 2014

She's a chunky monkey right now, but when she gets that growth spurt, she's likely to be quite a dish. Look at those gorgeous eyes!

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
9. Chunky monkey? Likely to become quite a dish?
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 01:15 PM
Mar 2014

Sorry, I fail to see how that is much different than the other judgements that are being made. Perhaps she likes the way she is right now?

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
10. And she is active too....
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 01:16 PM
Mar 2014

She will have more boyfriends than she knows what to do with. My little heart breaker always got a tad chunky before she had a growth spurt. We just enrolled in more sports and dance classes.

Edited to add, diet was a 4 letter word in our house, the F word was fat but we loved fluffy and I worked to have her maintain a healthy self image. Life is hard enough with out people beating themselves up.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
16. Her hair is cut short.
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 04:41 PM
Mar 2014

Paul is pretty clear, in 1 Corinthians, that it's shameful for a woman to have short hair, or for a man to have long hair. But she's not a woman, she's a little girl. Paul doesn't say anything about how little girls should wear their hair, and I don't think there's any mention of little girls' hairstyles anywhere else in the Bible, either.

Warpy

(111,253 posts)
17. Paul was a Roman and a misogynist who never met Jesus
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 07:09 PM
Mar 2014

and anything that man wrote is to be taken with a pound of salt. He was put into the bible to serve empire, not god.

struggle4progress

(118,281 posts)
15. The school teaches the inerrancy and infallibility of the Bible, which IMO suggests
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 04:21 PM
Mar 2014

they're authoritarian fundamentalists

struggle4progress

(118,281 posts)
20. Your posts would be more interesting if you stated and defended particular views
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 10:57 PM
Mar 2014

Then we might actually learn something from the discussion

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
21. What particular view are you stating and defending?
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 11:06 PM
Mar 2014

You don't need to be so insulting. Try behaving like the better person you evidently think you are. Answer my question, please. Are their Christian beliefs less valid than yours?

struggle4progress

(118,281 posts)
22. Your posts would be more interesting if you stated and defended particular views
Wed Mar 26, 2014, 11:56 PM
Mar 2014

Then we might actually learn something from the discussion

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
23. Thanks for making things clear.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 08:05 AM
Mar 2014

I asked a question; you engaged in personal attacks. I won't stoop to your level, sorry.

struggle4progress

(118,281 posts)
31. Your posts would be more interesting if you stated and defended particular views
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 02:50 PM
Mar 2014

Then we might actually learn something from the discussion

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
24. In the interest of fairness, I am posting the school's response here:
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 09:22 AM
Mar 2014

Lynchburg, VA – Liberty Counsel has been asked to represent Timberlake Christian Schools and to correct the record regarding allegations made about Timberlake Christian Schools and an eight-year-old girl by her great-grandparents and reported by a WSET news station. The statement below is from the School.
“Timberlake Christian Schools (School) is a ministry of Timberlake Baptist Church (Church). The Church and the School believe in the authority of the Holy Scriptures as the Word of God as an infallible guide for our lives. Our mission is to share the good news that Jesus Christ died to pay the penalty for our sins. He rose again and offers eternal life to all who will accept him as Lord and Savior.

The School is an extension of the Church. Our mission is to provide an excellent education and to nurture boys and girls in the knowledge of Jesus Christ so that they too can have a personal relationship with him. It pains us to see inaccurate information reported in the media regarding one of our young students, whom we will refer to as ‘S.K.’ in order to protect her privacy. The faculty and staff of the School love S.K. and want what is best for her as a person created in the image of God. We are deeply dismayed over the inaccurate and public nature of this situation and the false and inaccurate reporting.

The Church and the School are limited in what can be related about this situation. With all due respect, the facts are not as S.K.'s great-grandparents have portrayed them. This matter is far beyond a simple ‘hairstyle and tomboy issue’ as inaccurately portrayed. It is not about that at all. At no time did the Church or the School state or imply that S.K. was sexually immoral or the like. Yet, reports like this have appeared in the media. The School has never told S.K. she cannot return to school.

The Church and the School have a responsibility to all students, their parents, and guardians. Parents and guardians send their children to the School because of our Christian beliefs and standards. We have a duty to create an environment that is supportive of these Christian values. We cannot have conflicting messages or standards because such conflict will confuse our students and frustrate the parents and guardians who have entrusted the education of their children to us. When elementary children and their parents or guardians express concerns regarding use of the restroom and other matters arising from the sensitive issues here, the School has a duty to address those concerns and to ensure that all interests are heard and protected in accordance with the Christian mission of the School. While we welcome all students, parents and guardians are made aware of the School’s Christian mission and beliefs. We not only have a right, but we also have a duty to uphold these Christian standards.

We deeply regret that the great-grandparents either made inaccurate statements or were quoted out of context. This public discussion is not in the best interest of all concerned. S.K. has been attending our school for several years and we had looked forward to working with her and her great-grandparents privately.”

Mat Staver, Founder and Chairman of Liberty Counsel, who has been asked to represent the school, commented: “The Book of Proverbs says that he who states his case first seems right until another comes forth to challenge him. I think that accurately describes the misinformation that was reported regarding Timberlake Christian School. The school looks forward to working with the family and moving forward to a positive resolution.”

http://www.wdbj7.com/news/local/timberlake-christian-school-releases-statement-about-former-student/25179702

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
25. Interesting how they are denying the reported facts,
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 09:51 AM
Mar 2014

but offer none of their own. Just that they are a Christian school with Christian beliefs and Christian standards. Given the hateful behavior sometimes exhibited even by liberal Christians right here on DU, seems safe to say that Christian values can be just about anything.

get the red out

(13,462 posts)
28. Exactly!
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 10:41 AM
Mar 2014

I'd really like to know what an eight year old little girl has done that is so against Christianity? They need to educate the public about the evils of 8 year old girls.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
29. If we apply the same standard as in the American Atheist notary thread
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:12 AM
Mar 2014

perhaps this girl and her mother are lying. We have two competing stories so they must be equal.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
30. Well done, GM.
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:17 AM
Mar 2014

Very well done indeed.

Of course, perhaps we ARE following the same standard in both cases - the standard that the truly religious are never bad, and that those they are discriminating against should be assumed to be liars.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
26. My hair was shorter than her's
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 10:15 AM
Mar 2014

when my younger daughter was a baby. It was almost a crew cut. Couldn't be bothered with it. Cut if all off!!! Hey, Mommy, you are setting a BAD example for your daughters. Nevermind, would never have sent them to a school like that anyway,.

get the red out

(13,462 posts)
27. Short hair
Thu Mar 27, 2014, 10:39 AM
Mar 2014

My hair is so thick and curly I've never been able to wear it long. No one cared when I was a kid, or about the baseball glove hanging off my bicycle. My Baptist Decon Grandfather didn't care, my devout Church of Christ parents and other Grandparents didn't care; religion has become much more hateful than it was 40 years ago. Seriously, they didn't run around trying to humiliate little kids over nothing back then.

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