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Fri May 2, 2014, 04:22 PM May 2014

55,000 Christians: We’re ‘Appalled By Sarah Palin’s Twisted Misrepresentation Of Our Faith’

by David Badash on May 1, 2014

More than 55,000 Christians have signed a petition stating they are “appalled by [Sarah] Palin’s twisted misrepresentation of our faith.” The petition, created by Faithful America on Monday, came in response to the former Alaska governor’s speech at the NRA’s “Stand And Fight” rally over the weekend. Sarah Palin, now infamously had said if she were president, America’s enemies “would know that waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists.” (Video here.)

The petition laments that the former Republican vice presidential candidate’s comments “are already making international headlines, once again portraying Christianity as a religion of hatred and violence.”

“For Christians,” the petition notes, “torture is not a joke or a political punchline, but a ghastly reminder of the suffering of Jesus upon the cross. By equating it with Holy Baptism — the act by which we are united with Christ in his death and resurrection — Sarah Palin is blasphemously twisting our faith into a weapon of hatred and violence. No media outlet should cover her remarks without reporting on how sincere Christians of all theological and political persuasions are appalled.”

Almost immediately, America’s faith leaders, pundits and writers attacked Palin for the “heresy” of her “blasphemous” and “sacrilegious” water boarding analogy.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/55000-christians-were-appalled-by-sarah-palins-twisted-misrepresentation-of-our-faith/politics/2014/05/01/86584

http://act.faithfulamerica.org/sign/palinwaterboarding

The original goal was 15,000. It's now up to 62,000.

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55,000 Christians: We’re ‘Appalled By Sarah Palin’s Twisted Misrepresentation Of Our Faith’ (Original Post) rug May 2014 OP
She is so over. cbayer May 2014 #1
I agree it's good they are pushing back but AtheistCrusader May 2014 #2
The so called "Christians" believe in executions (death penalty) Iliyah May 2014 #5
Pretty good description of TNNurse May 2014 #6
I'm sure she'll pop up again like a bad zit sakabatou May 2014 #8
Hopefully on something like celebrity tic-tac-toe. cbayer May 2014 #12
So how many years did it take them to take a stand? Too little too late. n/t broadcaster75201 May 2014 #3
It's never too little, too late, imo. cbayer May 2014 #4
Huh? AtheistCrusader May 2014 #7
Of course it's a small percentage. okasha May 2014 #17
That is my assumption. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #18
Then, stop going to church theaocp May 2014 #9
Say what? What in the world does this have to do with them cbayer May 2014 #13
no, there are enough real crazy people to still follow a nut job...... BlueJac May 2014 #10
Christiany weatherboarding? Augiedog May 2014 #11
I would take that bet and very, likely win. cbayer May 2014 #14
That wasn't what that poster said. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #15
A side note Augiedog May 2014 #16
I think you are right noiretextatique May 2014 #19
Most believers do not believe they will be forgiven no matter what they do. cbayer May 2014 #20

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
2. I agree it's good they are pushing back but
Fri May 2, 2014, 05:20 PM
May 2014

that's less than 1/10th of 1% of the Christians in this country. So, I don't think she's necessarily 'over'. Not by this anyway.

There's a fair number of right-wing folks out there that self-identify as Christians, that are quite comfortable with torture, and in fact, find means like waterboarding too lenient.

She's not exactly going to be cancelling any book tours over this kerfuffle.

But yes, it is heartening to see Christians banding together to call her out on her hypocrisy.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. The so called "Christians" believe in executions (death penalty)
Fri May 2, 2014, 06:36 PM
May 2014

as well as starving babies after they are born.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
12. Hopefully on something like celebrity tic-tac-toe.
Fri May 2, 2014, 07:10 PM
May 2014

Or she and her kin could go on Family Feud!

I might even watch a reality show about her, lol.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. It's never too little, too late, imo.
Fri May 2, 2014, 06:33 PM
May 2014

She's been pretty systematically shunned, but this last stunt was really the last straw for them.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. Huh?
Fri May 2, 2014, 06:51 PM
May 2014

That's still a small fraction of a percentage point of even politically-left Christians.
Do you honestly believe this incident changes anything?

"WASHINGTON (CNN, April 30th 2009) — The more often Americans go to church, the more likely they are to support the torture of suspected terrorists, according to a new analysis. More than half of people who attend services at least once a week — 54 percent — said the use of torture against suspected terrorists is “often” or “sometimes” justified. Only 42 percent of people who “seldom or never” go to services agreed, according the analysis released Wednesday by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. White evangelical Protestants were the religious group most likely to say torture is often or sometimes justified — more than 6 in 10 supported it. People unaffiliated with any religious organization were least likely to back it. Only 4 in 10 of them did. The analysis is based on a Pew Research Center survey of 742 American adults conducted April 14-21. It did not include analysis of groups other than white
evangelicals, white non-Hispanic Catholics, white mainline Protestants, and the religiously unaffiliated, because the sample size was too small. "

okasha

(11,573 posts)
17. Of course it's a small percentage.
Fri May 2, 2014, 10:19 PM
May 2014

How many people do you suppose even look at the website? I suspect it's a minuscule number of liberal Christians to begin with.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
18. That is my assumption.
Fri May 2, 2014, 11:27 PM
May 2014

A more interesting result would be the Palin's church booting them or excommunicating them or whatever they do.

theaocp

(4,236 posts)
9. Then, stop going to church
Fri May 2, 2014, 06:54 PM
May 2014

and worship in private. Her kind will only continue to be exposed. She and her ilk have taken the reins. Deal with it and walk away. If you believe in your god, s/he will listen, regardless of where you do it.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
13. Say what? What in the world does this have to do with them
Fri May 2, 2014, 07:12 PM
May 2014

going to church?

She said something exceedingly stupid. They are ostracizing her from their church.

She doesn't have any reins and they are telling her that.

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
10. no, there are enough real crazy people to still follow a nut job......
Fri May 2, 2014, 06:54 PM
May 2014

believe it, this country has turned nut crazy!!! Where is my country?

Augiedog

(2,545 posts)
11. Christiany weatherboarding?
Fri May 2, 2014, 06:56 PM
May 2014

I would be willing to bet that every single person who was in involved in water boarding "terrorists" will tell you that he or she is a "Christian". And often times might tell you that they are more Christiany that the Christian next to them.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
14. I would take that bet and very, likely win.
Fri May 2, 2014, 07:13 PM
May 2014

To equate water boarding with christians is really pretty despicable.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
15. That wasn't what that poster said.
Fri May 2, 2014, 07:58 PM
May 2014

For the sake of clarification, I would paraphrase it 'nearly or every single one of them would self-identify as a christian'.

Augiedog

(2,545 posts)
16. A side note
Fri May 2, 2014, 08:11 PM
May 2014

I saw on DU today a report of an Alabama Chief Justice claiming that Buddhism and Islam are not religions protected by the U.S. Constitution. Go figure. Maybe we can start weatherboarding Buddhists too, they probably feel left out.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
19. I think you are right
Sat May 3, 2014, 02:51 PM
May 2014

I bet 100% of American torturers claim to be Christians. If you 'believe' you are right, and forgiven for whatever you do...you can justify doing horrible evil.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
20. Most believers do not believe they will be forgiven no matter what they do.
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:17 PM
May 2014

Where did you get that idea?

Some people have no conscience and can do pretty much anything without feeling guilt or remorse.

It has nothing to do with religion.

Again, stating that all that torture are christians is just despicable and completely with any basis.

It's a belief born of prejudice.

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