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Related: About this forumPhilosophical Advice For A Lesbian Atheist With Religiously Homophobic Future In-Laws
May 6, 2014
By Daniel Fincke
Dear Dr. Fincke,
I am at a complete loss when it comes to my future in-laws (ahhh in-law problems). I have identified as an atheist, openly and proudly, since I knew there was a word for what I (didnt) believe. It doesnt often come up, but Im not afraid to talk about it when it does. I dont appreciate being evangelized, so I dont try to actively change other peoples minds when it comes to religion. Im happy to answer questions about atheism and encourage people to think things through for themselves.
I am also a lesbian. Out and proud. Two and a half years ago, I met my current partner. One of the first things I asked her was if she was religious. Her relationship with religion is complicated. Up until her parents discovered she was gay at 15 years old, I would describe her immediate family as moderate Christians. They didnt really go to church, but they were believers. When they found out, they immediately pulled her out of public school and sent her to a conservative Christian school. They also forced her to cut ties with her friends and quit a promising career in sport. They had an extremely rocky relationship during her last two years of high school as they became more and more involved in the church (I believe they are Foursquare?). Her father was extremely emotionally abusive to her (she has kept a stack of letters he wrote to her during this time that I am too afraid to read). She moved out the day she graduated.
It has only been the last couple of years that she has started to repair her relationship with her family (after 10-ish years with little meaningful interaction). She would say she has a surface relationship, she loves them and likes to spend time with them, but I dont think she trusts them. To me, they seem very conservative, but according to her, they have softened in the last few years. They were not welcoming to previous girlfriends, and her mother was often outright hostile. From almost day 1, they have welcomed me into their home, invited me to family events, and even refer to me as Auntie to their new granddaughter. They know I am an atheist and it has come up a couple of times (the first time was on Christmas day at their home wheee!).
There is a lot of God in their home and their lives. Grace gets said before every meal. Any good thing is life is attributed to God/Jesus. They openly mock other religions/cultures. They are very involved in missionary work in other countries. I have varying levels of comfort with their displays of faith, but choose to keep my mouth shut since we are in their home. They are kind to me and to us as a couple.
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I am at a complete loss when it comes to my future in-laws (ahhh in-law problems). I have identified as an atheist, openly and proudly, since I knew there was a word for what I (didnt) believe. It doesnt often come up, but Im not afraid to talk about it when it does. I dont appreciate being evangelized, so I dont try to actively change other peoples minds when it comes to religion. Im happy to answer questions about atheism and encourage people to think things through for themselves.
I am also a lesbian. Out and proud. Two and a half years ago, I met my current partner. One of the first things I asked her was if she was religious. Her relationship with religion is complicated. Up until her parents discovered she was gay at 15 years old, I would describe her immediate family as moderate Christians. They didnt really go to church, but they were believers. When they found out, they immediately pulled her out of public school and sent her to a conservative Christian school. They also forced her to cut ties with her friends and quit a promising career in sport. They had an extremely rocky relationship during her last two years of high school as they became more and more involved in the church (I believe they are Foursquare?). Her father was extremely emotionally abusive to her (she has kept a stack of letters he wrote to her during this time that I am too afraid to read). She moved out the day she graduated.
It has only been the last couple of years that she has started to repair her relationship with her family (after 10-ish years with little meaningful interaction). She would say she has a surface relationship, she loves them and likes to spend time with them, but I dont think she trusts them. To me, they seem very conservative, but according to her, they have softened in the last few years. They were not welcoming to previous girlfriends, and her mother was often outright hostile. From almost day 1, they have welcomed me into their home, invited me to family events, and even refer to me as Auntie to their new granddaughter. They know I am an atheist and it has come up a couple of times (the first time was on Christmas day at their home wheee!).
There is a lot of God in their home and their lives. Grace gets said before every meal. Any good thing is life is attributed to God/Jesus. They openly mock other religions/cultures. They are very involved in missionary work in other countries. I have varying levels of comfort with their displays of faith, but choose to keep my mouth shut since we are in their home. They are kind to me and to us as a couple.
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Philosophical Advice For A Lesbian Atheist With Religiously Homophobic Future In-Laws (Original Post)
rug
May 2014
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Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)1. Excellent post! Thanks rug!
A very difficult subject dealt with in such a mature way. Fincke is a smart guy.
LostOne4Ever
(9,286 posts)2. Very interesting read thanks for posting!
For a lot of people initially joining atheist groups is like finding a support group where theyre finally allowed to vent their frustrations with religious privilege without having to self-censor and tip toe around religious feelings. They can be with other people who just get it. For a time at least, thats a healthy thing.
This (or an appropriate variation there of) should be framed in every safe haven!
pinto
(106,886 posts)3. Good piece. A lot of good points made.