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rug

(82,333 posts)
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 11:17 AM Jan 2015

Top political advisor stresses rule of law in managing religious affairs



Yu Zhengsheng (R front), chairman of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, visits Yingli Solar Company in Baoding City, north China's Hebei Province, Jan. 31, 2015. Yu made an inspection tour in Hebei from Jan. 29 to 31. (Xinhua/Pang Xinglei)

English.news.cn | 2015-01-31 19:19:09 | Editor: Xiang Bo

SHIJIAZHUANG, Jan. 31 (Xinhua) -- Chinese top political advisor Yu Zhengsheng has called for efforts to administer religious affairs in accordance with the law.

Yu, chairman of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, made the remarks during an inspection tour in Baoding City in north China's Hebei Province between Jan. 29 and 31, with religious work as one of his focuses.

"Religious work should be advanced along the legal track and in accordance with religious laws," Yu said while visiting the city's churches and temples.

He encouraged religious circles to contribute to economic and cultural development, and social harmony.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2015-01/31/c_133961291.htm

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Top political advisor stresses rule of law in managing religious affairs (Original Post) rug Jan 2015 OP
Makes some assumptions about what the laws are. Igel Jan 2015 #1
That's precisely it. rug Jan 2015 #2
Just a simple way of saying Cartoonist Jan 2015 #3
Chinese law okasha Jan 2015 #4
Wow, that was quite a stretch Cartoonist Jan 2015 #5
None at all, actually. okasha Jan 2015 #6
Yet you still don't get it Cartoonist Jan 2015 #7
I get it just fine. okasha Jan 2015 #8
What double standard? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #9
Uhm, no. okasha Jan 2015 #10
Atheist persecution of indigenous peoples Cartoonist Jan 2015 #11
In your OP. okasha Jan 2015 #12
reply #5 Cartoonist Jan 2015 #13
Your customary fallback reply. okasha Jan 2015 #14
? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #15
when religions conflict, law is useful Brettongarcia Feb 2015 #16

Igel

(35,268 posts)
1. Makes some assumptions about what the laws are.
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 11:39 AM
Jan 2015

Try "race relations should be governed by the rule of law."

In 1950 there'd be one reaction to that from progressives; in 2015, quite another. The laws reflect the majority views of society, for the most part, and in those societies minorities have to be protected from majoritarianism. In other societies, the laws reflect those of an oligarchy or set of autocrats, and in those societies the "social engineers" dictate what should happen--and then both the majority and the minorities have to be protected.

Typically one invokes "we must respect authority and abide by the laws" only when we like the laws, feel supported by the laws, or see our enemies hurt by the laws. That is almost always the root definition of "fair".

okasha

(11,573 posts)
4. Chinese law
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:34 PM
Jan 2015

apparently has no problem with ethnic cleansing or executing dissidents.

Thank you for this post. It shows up the utter insincerity of your hand-wrInging "sympathy" for Native American issues.

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
5. Wow, that was quite a stretch
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:10 PM
Jan 2015

I was merely commenting on the statement, not supporting anything negative. But you go on being you.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
6. None at all, actually.
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:30 PM
Jan 2015

Perhaps you're unaware that it was once against the law for Native Americans to practice our own faiths.

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
7. Yet you still don't get it
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jan 2015

You still absolve Christianity of things like that. What did Native Americans once call those who converted to Christianity?

okasha

(11,573 posts)
8. I get it just fine.
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 08:37 PM
Jan 2015

Your double standard is showing.

To answer your qustion with a partial list in only one language--agitsi, edoda, igido , atsutsa etc..

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
9. What double standard?
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 08:47 PM
Jan 2015

They persecuted Native Americans for practicing their own religion and you call it a land grab. As for that Chinese statement, I see it no differently than saying here, the Constitution comes first, the Bible should have no say in our laws. Does that mean I believe American justice has been a sweet ride for everyone? Of course it hasn't.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
10. Uhm, no.
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 08:56 PM
Jan 2015

The land grab came well before the attempt to do away with indigenous religions; in fact, it was the reservation system that made the latter possible.

Here's your double standard:

Atheist persecution of indigenous peoples and their religion: Doubleplus Good.

Christian persecution of indigenous peoples and their religions: Doubleplus Bad.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
12. In your OP.
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 09:12 PM
Jan 2015

Or perhaps you're blissfully unaware of the current ethnic cleansing being conducted by Beijing against the Uyghurs?

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
15. ?
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 11:17 PM
Jan 2015

How you can interpret my remark as support for the Atheist persecution of indigenous peoples is ridiculous.

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