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Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:21 PM

Psychological type and religion/church?

Reading a thread just now on this forum I realized that the article in the OP was fairly obviously written by an extroverted person, the author was going on and on about the value of community and a meeting space and groups and all I could think of was how wearying it would be to deal with groups of people all the time. I'm fine with up to about half a dozen people I know fairly well or a large completely anonymous crowd where I don't have to interact except perhaps superficially like a concert but interacting with strangers or near strangers on a relatively prolonged basis is mentally or emotionally tiring and I want to get away to somewhere more solitary fairly quickly. Put me in a cocktail party with a bunch of strangers and it's my idea of Purgatory.

To be blunt I'm an introvert, not an extreme one but I have the tendency and being alone quite a bit doesn't bother me much if at all because I'm good at amusing myself, I always have something I want to learn or see or a book to read a project to work on, people who are wrong on the internet and so on.

Anyone else find the idea of getting together with a largish group like a church not super attractive?



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Reply Psychological type and religion/church? (Original post)
Fumesucker Feb 2015 OP
stone space Feb 2015 #1
Fumesucker Feb 2015 #2
Marie Marie Feb 2015 #3
Fumesucker Feb 2015 #4
Marie Marie Feb 2015 #5
Fumesucker Feb 2015 #6
Marie Marie Feb 2015 #8
Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #12
TM99 Feb 2015 #7
Fumesucker Feb 2015 #9
NeoGreen Feb 2015 #11
elleng Feb 2015 #10
cbayer Feb 2015 #13

Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:32 PM

1. Well, it's not my idea of fun, but...

 

...then, my idea of fun is to sit around all day doing math, so what do I know?



Well, that and dancing salsa.





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Response to stone space (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:36 PM

2. How do you keep it in the bowl?

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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:39 PM

3. Extreme Introvert here and proud of it.

We operate on a different level but sometimes that is a good thing. So yes, being in a large group, in church or elsewhere, is exhausting and draining for me. For people like us, solitude is relaxing and enjoyable - a place of purification. Fumesucker, we are kindred spirits. Have you read: Quiet The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking by Susan Cain? It changed my life by explaining that so much of what was going on with me was my introversion. Then, it also showed my that introversion has many upsides and we should not feel bad about not functioning on a social level the same way extroverts do.

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Response to Marie Marie (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:50 PM

4. I haven't seen that, it sounds interesting

I see the blurb mentions Steve Wozniak, I'm kind of Wozzish I guess...

The author does a TED talk at this page.. I'll watch it shortly.

http://www.thepowerofintroverts.com/about-the-book/



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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:55 PM

5. Fumesucker, since you hadn't heard of this book then

let me gush on and tell you this is a must read for anyone who struggles fitting in in this world of extroverts. I guarantee you that you will learn a lot about yourself and feel much better having done so. It was also, at least for me, an interesting read. I had no problem breezing through this book.

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Response to Marie Marie (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 11:02 PM

6. Are you familiar with the MBTI?

http://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/

So far that's the best psychological test I've taken, the results I get back are almost eerie, we like to feel that we are unique and the test pegs me so well it almost creeps me out.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 11:33 PM

8. Yes, I took some version of the Myers Briggs Test although I know that

there are much longer and more detailed versions of this test out there. Susan Cain talks about Myers Briggs in her book. The test I took pegged me as an Introvert (no surprise to me since I had just previously read Quiet.)

Throughout the reading of this book, I just kept saying to myself: "So THAT is why I feel this way" or "Well, that explains this difference in how I, VS the majority of people I know approach problems, projects, interactions etc so differently" or even "Now I understand why, even though I had a great time being out with some friends last night, I feel so drained and in need of a recharge". It just explained so much to me about how the brains of introverts and extroverts work and why I always felt different around people. Like why I detest small talk but can converse for hours on some "meaty" topic. Why crowds freak me out but I can spend unnatural amounts of time by myself. Even why, as I get older, I find myself needing more and more personal space around me. This book was a real eye-opener.

If you do read it, have a highliter at the ready - there is so much you will want to mark for re-reads.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 27, 2015, 09:31 AM

12. I wouldn't put too much stock in the Meyers-Briggs test.

Never mind that there are serious criticisms of any test purporting to identify personality type, researchers have had 30 years to evaluate the MBTI and they are largely unimpressed.

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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 11:26 PM

7. As someone trained in Jungian psychology,

 

being an introvert does not preclude enjoying groups of people (even large ones) and social interactions. It simply means that we introverts don't 'recharge' psychically that way. Extroverts come alive and feel re-energized when they interact with 'objects' outside of themselves. Introverts come alive and feel re-energized when we go within. So extroverts still need time alone and can enjoy solitary activities, and introverts still need social interactions and can enjoy even large group functions.

I am an extreme introvert. I still enjoy community and social interactions. I have to sometimes speak before very large groups of people. I don't feel recharged doing it, but I don't mind it. I take time before or after to reset so to speak.

I have found the best of both worlds being a Buddhist more than anything else. I have plenty of time, even in group settings, where I get to go within and meditate.

So I don't think that introversion and extroversion alone in typology account for the religion/church question. Now we could go deeper into the Sensates vs. Intuitives and the Feelers vs. Thinkers for some fun discussion.

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Response to TM99 (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 11:40 PM

9. I'm a nearly classic INTP on the MBTI..

Speaking to even a good sized group doesn't really bother me if I'm talking about something I feel competent in but as you say, I need to recharge after.

I find my biggest conflicts with my P against J types, or that's the way I read it anyway.

I'm kind of surprised how much an INTP can look and feel like ADD even still now I'm a lot closer to the end of my life than the beginning.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 27, 2015, 08:15 AM

11. Another INTP here...

...but my biggest conflicts are between S & N.

Both sets of MBTI explanations for Sensing & Intuition have elements that I display strongly, reject or am neutral about.

But, "I", I am.



INTP's of the world!...Let's Unite...or...go and analyze the possibilities on our own terms and we'll get back to you about the results...

...eventually...

...after careful consideration....

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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Fri Feb 27, 2015, 02:29 AM

10. Not at all attractive to me,

I spend much of my time alone and avoid large groups of strangers. Ditto about your 'Purgatory.'

edit: but that's 'strangers.' Have invited my high school graduating class for a 'birthdays' party, and hoping some good friends will come. Group may end up small enough to not cause problems, and I'll know them all. (Maybe 20 will come.)

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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Fri Feb 27, 2015, 09:55 AM

13. I'm similar to you in lots of ways.

I prefer to spend most of my time alone and socialize infrequently and very specifically. My lifestyle is very amenable to that.

However, I'm not sure that that would impact on whether I would join a church or similar group. I do enjoy groups where I know everyone fairly well. Big family gatherings appeal to me. I thrived in the church environment as a kid because I knew everyone, everyone knew me and I was able to be myself.

In order to recreate that, I would have to start cold and I'm pretty sure I don't want to do that. But if all the people I know best were to magically form some kind of group that met regularly and with some ritual, it might really appeal to me.

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