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Related: About this forumGay priest to be stripped of duties at Vatican
Rome (CNN)A Polish priest who served with the Vatican's doctrinal arm will no longer be able to carry out his duties after announcing he is gay on the eve of a major Church meeting, a Vatican spokesman said.
With his partner at his side, Monsignor Krysztof Olaf Charamsa held a press conference Saturday in Rome, calling on Pope Francis to revise Catholic doctrine on homosexuality, which considers same-sex relationships sinful.
Charamsa, 43, said the timing of the announcement was intended to put the topic before the Synod of Bishops. The three-week assembly of bishops from around the world beginning Sunday will address issues facing Catholic families.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/03/world/gay-vatican-priest-krzystof-charamsa-feat/
Ah, nothing says tolerance and compassion as well as "you're fired".
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Warpy
(110,903 posts)which conflicted with his rights.
One of the main things the church needs to discard is celibacy.
rug
(82,333 posts)Just like this guy.
http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1896581,00.html
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)That would explain a lot about these discussions here
rug
(82,333 posts)So, why don't you share your knowledge of the Mattachine Society?
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)So what does it stand for if you actually do know?
rug
(82,333 posts)Maybe you should stick to beer pong.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Now I'll make it easier for you, what does the QIA stand for?
rug
(82,333 posts)Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Simple, lowball question. It's not like this is about abortion or anything, just a basic acronym
rug
(82,333 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 5, 2015, 08:22 PM - Edit history (1)
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)And you're a proud, dues paying member of a group that fights against LGBTQIA rights across the globe. So this is a real question, do you even know the full spectrum of people your church oppresses?
rug
(82,333 posts)And you can get the fuck off your self-built high horse.
You haven't the slightest clue as to what I do or know or don't do or don't know.
Other that I am a Catholic.
Which is all you need to build your playground sand castles of bigotry.
I will tell you this: Talking bigotry out of the side of your mouth by calling active Catholics bigots reduces the legitimate human rights struggle that is taking place, affecting millions of real people, to no more than internet gamesmanship.
You have zero credibility to attempt to lecture anyone on human rights, "Lord".
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)I asked a simple question and you refused, I even made it simpler and you still refused.
My point was that the last three letters mean Queer (Or questioning, depending on who you ask) Intersex and Asexual. My point is that you can be in a relationship with no sex if you're asexual. But you choose to die on the hill of refusing to answer a question about a subject that is very touchy right now.
Maybe you could show that you're more concerned about an oppressed minority than you are about the global corporation with "incalculable wealth" that is actively doing the oppressing.
I'll also add that you know nothing about me either, other than that I'm an atheist.
rug
(82,333 posts)timestamps are interesting things..
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)They probably read your post.
rug
(82,333 posts)Would you like the results?
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Last edited Sun Oct 4, 2015, 06:15 PM - Edit history (1)
I am not endorsing the Catholic stand on homosexuality but I don't see how they could allow this priest to admit having to having a relationship when they don't allow any others to do so.
Personally, I think the church should rethink its stand on both homosexuality and the celibacy requirement for priests. And make a real stand against pedophile priests.
840high
(17,196 posts)mr blur
(7,753 posts)trotsky
(49,533 posts)And many berated those of us who pointed out what came just after it: "... if they're seeking the Lord in good faith."
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)like defending this nonsense.
rug
(82,333 posts)I can't wait for GM to provide an explanation for your post that is not agenda-driven.
Cartoonist
(7,298 posts)And whose GM are you talking about?
rug
(82,333 posts)This is GM, and his dubious rationalizations:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=214261
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)where it is actually posted. But if you want to do it here, that's fine with me.
Which ones, specifically, do you have a problem with.
And if I were to add this OP to the list it would be "RCC is bigoted toward gays. Again." as the description.
rug
(82,333 posts)And the reason for posting the OP would be . . . ,. ?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1218214190#post25
The hypocrisy is stunning.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Just bluster and hand waving. Got it.
rug
(82,333 posts)As to your description of this OP, it's more of the same.
And your failure to deny the hypocrisy you posted simply underscores it.
Got it?
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)You don't really want to discuss anything. You just want to say it's all bad without giving any reasons. Hope it makes you feel good.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)a dialogue and he doesn't do dialogue.
rug
(82,333 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)I guess noting the overt bigotry of the RCC is "pushing an agenda", the agenda in this case being "noting the overt bigotry of the RCC".
Or perhaps it is a secret agenda. You know, the secret gay agenda that I hear so much about from rightwing nut jobs. Maybe it is that agenda.
rug
(82,333 posts)Don't you do discussion, warren?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Yorktown
(2,884 posts)I hope to God it wouldn't be a believer in It (God)
That would be such an ungodly behavior..
rug
(82,333 posts)Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)and shuffled around priests who committed actual crimes, this really lays bare the complete and utter lack of morality displayed by a Church that just won't shut up with its moralizing.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)trotsky
(49,533 posts)Love an adult, lose your job.
Fucked. Up.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Yorktown
(2,884 posts)Some in the Roman Catholic Church took it a bit too literally..
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)and get a promotion to the Vatican.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)The catholic church has lost sight of Jesus
A bunch of angry old men telling others how they should live
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Priesthood.
A few years ago Father Alberto Cutie was famously caught with a (female) lover. I say famously because he was a celebrity and the tabloid magazines had a field day publishing pictures of him and his girlfriend frolicking at the beach. He was fired. He switched to the Anglican church and married.
Like I said, they all know they are required to be celibate before joining the Priesthood. If that's to though a requirement, then don't join . Nobody is forcing anyone to join.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)that have been caught having sexually abused children.
To put it simply, as long as the person they fuck is below the age of consent, the Church apparently gave them a pass for a long time, and many parishes and dioceses still do, apparently.
Yet look at how quickly this priest was "disciplined", its a stark contrast, and shows an ugly double standard.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)Gay pride in Vatican city?
rug
(82,333 posts)Yorktown
(2,884 posts)But thanks for trying to elicit an alertable answer.
Oh, btw, my header sentence was an obvious spoof of the OP's title.
Lighten up, rug. The fact the trip of Francis exposed his bigotry shouldn't embitter you.