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Related: About this forumTrump-Pence the Most Anti-Catholic Republican Ticket in Modern History
Christopher J. Hale
7:06 PM ET
... Catholics have voted for the winner of the popular vote in almost every presidential election since Franklin D. Roosevelt. (They just didnt like Ike in 52) ...
In February, Trump attacked the wildly popular Pope Francis as being disgraceful and a political pawn. Perhaps that helps explain why Hillary Clinton holds a remarkable seventeen-point lead (56% to 39%) against Trump among Catholics. Among Latino Catholics, the margin balloons to fifty-one points (77% to 16%) ...
Mike Pence ... fought hard against Pope Francis and the Catholic Churchs attempt to resettle Syrian refugees in Indiana. Citing security concerns after last Novembers Paris attacks, Pence tried to pressure the local Catholic Charities into longer welcoming and housing refugees fleeing violence and terrorism in the Middle East. However, Joseph Tobin, Indianapoliss archbishop, courageously defied the governors orders. Tobin said at the time that welcoming refugees is an essential part of our identity as Catholic Christians, and we will continue this life-saving tradition ...
... If Donald Trump and Mike Pence and Hillary Clinton and her running mate want to fight for Christian values, then ensure this is a nation that fights for Gods dreams of a place where the last are first, the poor are blessed, and enemies are loved ...
http://time.com/4409456/trump-pence-catholicism/
Cartoonist
(7,298 posts)And has nothing to do with religion
King_Klonopin
(1,305 posts)onecaliberal
(32,489 posts)struggle4progress
(118,041 posts)By Michelle Boorstein July 15
... One of the more publicly shared accounts of Pences transition from a Catholic youth minister who wanted to be a priest to an evangelical megachurch member came in 1994. Thats when he told the Indianapolis Business Journal about an intense period of religious searching that he underwent in college. I made a commitment to Christ, Pence said, speaking of the late 1970s. Im a born-again, evangelical Catholic ... In the 1994 piece, Pence calls himself Catholic, and then by 1995, the Indianapolis Star was reporting that Pence was attending an evangelical megachurch ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/07/15/what-it-means-that-mike-pence-called-himself-an-evangelical-catholic/
Pence is about as contrary to the Pope as you can be on most issues save for anti-Abortion... But you can't spin this as Pro-Life as he fails on the other points associated with Pro-Life.
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pnwmom
(108,925 posts)No Vested Interest
(5,157 posts)I realize he was brought up in the Catholic faith, but understood that upon his marriage (and remarriage) to a wife who is an evangelical Christian, that he didn't identify as a Catholic any longer.
Correct me if I'm wrong (with sources.)
muriel_volestrangler
(101,155 posts)...
Want to be a champion for the Christian cause? Make sure that this is a nation where mercy reigns supreme, a country where black lives matter, where LGBT lives matter, and so too do the lives of refugees, the imprisoned, the unborn and anyone else who suffers dehumanization, exclusion and injustice.
The thing is, French's accusation is that Pence caved over the reaction to Indiana's religious freedom restoration act. French wanted more anti-LGBT legislation than Pence felt able to give. The author is taking a Catholic pro-refugee action, and an anti-LGBT religious act, and trying to make it look as if they're all part of the same thing, although he appears to be pro-LGBT himself.
Trump is currently losing the Catholic vote because Hispanic Catholics are rising in numbers.
He's still ahead among 'white Catholics'. That was the June 20012 and 2016 figures; when you look at the actual exit poll numbers, you find white Catholics voted 59% Romney, 40% Obama.
http://www.pewforum.org/2012/11/07/how-the-faithful-voted-2012-preliminary-exit-poll-analysis/
Let's hope they don't prove so willing to vote Republican in the booth this year.
struggle4progress
(118,041 posts)I suspect actual campaign strategists will use a more finely-grained analysis: that is, one is also interested in (say) female/male, rural/urban and white-/blue- collar splits, since such differences between white and hispanic catholics may reflect other demographic differences
Thus, on average, hispanics are younger than the US population as a whole, whereas the Catholic population as a whole is aging. There are also geographic differences in demography, which matter when one wants to tune messages regionally for electoral college victory: non-Hispanic Catholics are disproportionately in the Northeast and Midwest, whereas Hispanic Catholics are disproportionately in the South and West