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rug

(82,333 posts)
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 07:25 AM Apr 2017

The modern pilgrims retracing Britain's ancient routes

Devout Christians and committed atheists are among those rediscovering the joys of slow travel on foot with strangers

Saturday 15 April 2017 03.00 EDT
Harriet Sherwood

In one of the smallest churches in England, a couple of dozen people are taking the weight off their walking boots for a moment of quiet reflection in the cool gloom. Outside, an unlikely April sun pours over the South Downs.

It seemed, says Will Parsons, a good moment to learn the lyrics of John Bunyan’s To Be a Pilgrim – perhaps, he adds, adopting neutral terms “to be more inclusive”.

The group was soon belting out the 17th-century hymn, drawing curious passersby to peer into the tiny hillside Church of the Good Shepherd, in Lullington. Come wind, come weather, regardless of lions, giants, hobgoblins or foul fiends, “there’s no discouragement / Shall make them once relent / Their first avowed intent/ To be a pilgrim”, they sang.

This merry band are part of a new boom in pilgrimage which has seen the re-establishment of ancient routes and the growing participation of people on a spectrum of belief from religiously devout to committed atheists.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/15/modern-pilgrims-retracing-britain-ancient-routes-christians-atheists

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The modern pilgrims retracing Britain's ancient routes (Original Post) rug Apr 2017 OP
And did those feet... edhopper Apr 2017 #1
Thanks, ed. I had never head of that hymn. rug Apr 2017 #2
are you being edhopper Apr 2017 #3
No. rug Apr 2017 #5
It is treated almost as edhopper Apr 2017 #7
It's in American Episcopal hymnals, okasha Apr 2017 #10
Why would we sing hymns edhopper Apr 2017 #11
The hymn doesn't praise the English. okasha Apr 2017 #14
That would work for the Mormons edhopper Apr 2017 #15
.. okasha Apr 2017 #17
The words are by William Blake. okasha Apr 2017 #4
Thanks, okasha. rug Apr 2017 #6
And of course edhopper Apr 2017 #8
Actually, Cadbury Hill, not far away, is associated with Camelot. okasha Apr 2017 #9
Well then edhopper Apr 2017 #12
Cadbury has been identified with Camelot okasha Apr 2017 #13
Not a guidebook edhopper Apr 2017 #16
And how old was he? okasha Apr 2017 #18
You should hear what one guide in Mexico edhopper Apr 2017 #19

edhopper

(33,479 posts)
7. It is treated almost as
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 09:17 AM
Apr 2017

the second national anthem in England. Like our God Bless America.
That is why I asked.

I have been familiar with it for a long time.



okasha

(11,573 posts)
10. It's in American Episcopal hymnals,
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 04:51 PM
Apr 2017

but I've never heard it actually sung in an American church.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
14. The hymn doesn't praise the English.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:30 PM
Apr 2017

Remember the line about the "dark satanic mills?" Blake was an early environmentalist.

But of course, it's not sung much in the US because of its specific references to England. Maybe if "England's mountains green" could become the Blue Ridge or the Adirondacks, now....

okasha

(11,573 posts)
4. The words are by William Blake.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 03:14 AM
Apr 2017

The poem is based on a very old legend that Jesus visited England--specifically Glastonbury in Cornwall-- in the company of Joseph of Arimathea. In the legend, Joseph is Jesus' (great?) uncle, a merchant who trades in Cornish tin, among other things.

The same story also relates that Joseph returned to Cornwall after the crucifixion, bearing with him the cup from the Last Supper. Much of English Grail literature has its origin in this legend, locating the Grail Castle on or near Glastonbury Tor. Holy Well, at the foot of the Tor, is said in some iterations to be the cup's hiding place, while the Holy Thorn grew from Joseph's staff.


okasha

(11,573 posts)
9. Actually, Cadbury Hill, not far away, is associated with Camelot.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 04:48 PM
Apr 2017

Glastonbury Tor and its associated wetlands are identified as Avalon.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
13. Cadbury has been identified with Camelot
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:13 PM
Apr 2017

since the mid1500's. How old was your Stonehenge guide?

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