Karen Handel to Voter: My Faith Calls Me to Oppose Your Gay Daughters Rights

[NeoGreen]

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/06/17/karen-handel-to-voter-my-faith-calls-me-to-oppose-your-gay-daughters-rights/

Karen Handel to Voter: “My Faith Calls Me” to Oppose Your Gay Daughter’s Rights

When asked about same-sex couples adopting children, something she has opposed in the past, Handel first told reporters that her faith called her “to a very different place on these issues.” Handel, who is trailing Ossoff by a slim margin in the polls heading into Tuesday, doubled down on that answer when she was approached by a concerned mother.


The mother said to Handel:
“My daughter is part of the LGBT community and, as a mom, I’m like, ‘What protections do I have for her having a family in the future, for being able to adopt and have kids?’ There’s part of me that has the conservative nature, but then there’s the other part of me that’s like, ‘I accept my daughter,’ so I’m split and torn.”

Handel, looking and sounding dismissive of the mother, responded:
“Look, I have to be honest, my faith calls me to a different place on the issue. My faith also calls me to be compassionate, so I’ll try to do that.”


To put that another way, Handel’s Christian faith, which most Christians would say is about love and acceptance and forgiveness, compels her to discriminate against same-sex couples and deny them the right to a family. She’d rather let a child go unadopted than putting one in the care of a loving gay or lesbian couple.

[Xipe Totec]

1. God, save us from your followers. nt

[riversedge]

2. I will add the goddessess. We need all the help we can get.

[DFW]

10. Like the old saying goes:

I have nothing against God. It's his fan club I can't stand.

[Plucketeer]

25. AMEN to that! nt

[Initech]

22. I'm convinced that their god is a raging asshole.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

45. Yep

[Glorfindel]

3. I'll bet that the repulsive bigot is just fine with LGBTQ persons paying taxes, though

Let's be honest. These "Christians" don't give a rat's ass about orphans or the poor. All they are interested in is POWER. Well, their reward is waiting for them.

[Murtagh101]

4. New to DU...but been reading awhile.

It seems that you can't post in DU a new thread without having at least replied to some other threads.
I understand this.
So this is my first reply.
But the reason I signed up is that my roomie came up with the slogan to end all slogans for the Democratic party for 2018 and beyond...

Repeal and Replace the Republicans.

Someone might have already said it, i don't know.
It's short, it's simple and it dove tails nicely into pointing out that they want to take away people's health care.

Sorrry to hijack this small reply in this thread, but I just had to get it out into the cosmic brain and hopefully starting to percolate.


Murt

Again sorry I was not really on topic.

[Brainstormy]

6. Welcome to DU. n/t

[NeoGreen]

7. No worries, and welcome...

...

[Hortensis]

13. Welcome, and that slogan did have immediate appeal

right here, really hope voters hand Handel her third rejection tomorrow.

[Raster]

23. Welcome to DU!

And actually, I believe your post fits right in...

Repeal and Replace the Republicans.

[AwakeAtLast]

30. Welcome!

Are you, by chance, a fan of Outlander (going by your username)?

[Murtagh101]

34. Actually

I have watched some "Outlander", but my handle comes from YONKS and YONKS ago back in the Dinosaur daze of the Intertubular highway when we had 100 baud modems etc etc. I hung out on some early chat boards that ran on apple 2's. Called Diversidial. And i just plucked this handle out of the atmosphere was also way before the "Lethal Weapon" movies too.

Murt

[Brother Buzz]

42. "I'm Andrew Janz and I'm Here to Repeal and Replace Devin Nunes" MAY 11, 2017

"I'm Andrew Janz and I'm Here to Repeal and Replace Devin Nunes"

MAY 11, 2017

Protesters gathered in front of Congressman Devin Nunes’ office in Clovis on Thursday, upset about his vote to support the GOP health care plan and critical of his handling of the investigation into Russian election interference.

And, to hear from the first challenger to Nunes in the 2018 midterm election, a 33-year-old Fresno County deputy district attorney making his first run for office.

“I’m Andrew Janz and I’m here to repeal and replace Devin Nunes,” Janz told the crowd of about 80 supporters in the Central Valley town outside of Fresno.

“We’re here today because the congressman cast a vote last week for a bill that is a disaster for the American people … and we are here today because Devin Nunes won’t meet with us,” Janz said.

Janz, 33, of Visalia, told reporters he’d never thought about running for office until recently, when national political developments spurred him to get involved. He said he was especially motivated by the actions of his own representative, Nunes, on health care, and the complaint among some locals that the congressman ignored them.

Those concerns and critiques were echoed by the demonstrators.

https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/05/11/nunes-challenger-to-lead-health-care-rally/

Welcome to DU

[niyad]

46. welcome to du

[sinkingfeeling]

5. Why doesn't someone ask her, 'Where in the Bible does it say

LGBT people are more abominable than polyester?'

[sarge43]

11. Or tatoos or shellfish or touching a football or working on the Sabbeth

Letting iron age control freaks run your life. Yeah, that's a good idea.

[DFW]

14. Someone needs to play this for her:

[pangaia]

28. How I miss that show.

[LuckyLib]

41. Stunning writing, great characters.

[Roland99]

8. Her faith is ALWAYS subordinate to our secular, civil laws!

Fucking zealot

[annabanana]

36. Yup. If NOT, she has no business in public office!. . . .n/t

[trotsky]

9. And her beliefs are no more or less valid than anyone else's.

The magic of religion.

[Still In Wisconsin]

12. As the father of a gay daughter myself, this is infuriating.

Fuck you Karen Handel. I may be a Jew, but I know what your Jesus said about homosexuality and gay people.


That's right, NOTHING!

[Permanut]

15. Okay, so I guess we'll go ahead and make some changes..

We'll scratch out the part of the Pledge of Allegiance where it says "with liberty and justice for all". We'll leave in the part about "under God", though, of course.

The preamble to the Constitution will need to be changed to get rid of that "promote the general welfare" stuff. We will decree that the part about securing the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity applies only to certain groups.

The fourteenth amendment has to go, and in spite of the 19th amendment, we'll pretend that the Constitution granted equal rights to everybody right from the beginning.

What the hell, let's just toss out the Constitution, and use the Bible as our governing document instead. We don't need a Supreme Court either; Handel, Pat Robertson, Pence et al are perfectly capable of ruling on what our "faith" requires.

[AJT]

16. But....but, sharia law!

[airmid]

17. If your faith trumps your ability to serve ALL your constituents, then you have no business in

government...period

[hrmjustin]

18. I remind these bigots that God made me Gay.

And my faith requires me to give aid and comfort to my fellow man.

[rurallib]

19. " My faith also calls me to be compassionate"

so we allow people to cover their hits while we kick them around.

Compassionate? what a laugh. My cat has more compassion with a mouse.

[FlaGranny]

20. Sometimes I think that

some Christians rely on the old testament much more than they do the new one and much more than most Jews do. They especially like Leviticus. They certainly ignore the "cast the first stone" part of their Christian doctrine.

[Bettie]

24. That's because they are

Cafeteria Christians. They take a big helping of what they like (bigotry) and none of the stuff that doesn't appeal to them, like that 'cast the first stone' stuff!

My grandma used this word to describe people who showed up in the front row of church every Sunday and then screwed people over on the other 6 days. She was also the one who told me to avoid stores with the fish symbol in their ads, because "if you have to tell people you're a Christian, you're not showing it by your actions".

Boy, I am glad she's not here to see what we've become.

[hunter]

32. Oh man, that fish symbol...

... so many wear it like a bandage over their lying cheating ways.

I avoid businesses that use it in their advertising.

[Act_of_Reparation]

47. All Christians are "Cafeteria Christians"

Liberal Christians ignore most of the bad stuff Jesus had to say. Conservative Christians ignore most of the good stuff.

[Mariana]

29. Every Christian picks and chooses

which parts of the Bible they're going to follow and which parts they will ignore.

[greymattermom]

21. My brother in law came out as gay

after being married and having two children. What would she say about him?

[Raster]

26. Oh no, honey... NOT the "god" thing...

...it is YOUR BIGOTRY and YOUR HOMOPHOBIA and YOUR HATRED that calls you to a different place on the LGBTQ issue.

[Marthe48]

27. If you can't set your faith aside, step aside

JFK had to assure American voters that being Catholic would not influence his ability to lead. I liked that when I was 7. I like it now, much better than politicians slobbering about their faith.

Jesus said: Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. Render unto God what is God's. Jesus understood the realities of being human. He gave us a pass on this kind of judgement call.

If somebody is too power mad to understand this simple concept, get off the public stage and join your church choir.

[volstork]

33. Absolutely.

People who think (?) this way have NO place in public life. They are doing nothing but trying to foist their agendas on the public; they have no intention of serving the public. They are looking for theocracy. Here's a newsflash for them: theocracy exists in Iran and Saudi Arabia and Yemen and The Vatican, etc. Go THERE if you are so interested in forcing religion down the throats of others.

[Marthe48]

39. Love one another-Jesus

all men (humans) are created equal-The Constitution of the United States of America.

Pretty easy to work those 2 together without getting some panties in a twist.

[volstork]

40. Not for them.

Xian Jeezus don't beleeve in that shit

[Marthe48]

43. their religion is as perverted as their view of sex

n/t

[volstork]

44. Have to agree with you on that.

Puritanical repression/suppression is alive and well. These people are small and miserable, and have no idea of the joy life can bring.

[Orrex]

31. Oh yeah? Well MY faith says that faux-religious politicians should be pilloried

[radhika]

35. Note she says "your daughter's" rights

As if she's not speaking to adult Georgia women by saying "my faith calls me to oppose YOUR rights".

Under Xtian fascism, faith justifies all sorts of crimes, restrictions and penalties to be imposed on the larger community. Under patriarchy, daughters are the property of parents. Parents decide what the child can have have or do. Handel wants to be the mommy.

Given how far America has fallen, Handel may scrape up enough obedient children of voting age to win.

[Maven]

37. My humanity calls me to oppose toxic assholes like Karen Handel. nt

[bullwinkle428]

38. "Jesus told me to HATE YOUR GUTS!!1!1!"