I think we need better advocates for gods here.

[Voltaire2]

[NeoGreen]

1. I think Louis Cyphre...

...has one on retainer with some free time.

[Act_of_Reparation]

14. Now there's a reference you don't see trotted out too often.

Well played, sir.

[NeoGreen]

20. My pleasure...

...

[rzemanfl]

2. A god ought to be able to advocate for themself, don't you think? n/t

[Voltaire2]

3. gods don't seem to be as powerful as they used to be.

their powers seem to be sort of random weak sauce these days.

[marylandblue]

5. No they are too busy creating earthquakes and floods

Advocacy is delegated to mere mortals.

[rzemanfl]

8. Along with train wrecks and fires it seems. n/t

[democratisphere]

4. Not to worry. Allfather will take care of everything!

[shenmue]

6. I think you need to move over to the section that's already called Atheism.

[Voltaire2]

7. Religion Group Statement of purpose:

"Discuss religious and theological issues. All relevant topics are permitted. Believers, non-believers, and everyone in-between are welcome."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=about&forum=1218

This is the group you probably intended to visit and got lost and ended up here:

Interfaith Group

"A safe haven that provides opportunities for people of all faiths, spiritual leanings and non-belief to discuss religious topics and events in a positive and civil manner, with an emphasis on tolerance. Criticisms of individual beliefs or non-belief, or debates about the existence of higher power(s) are not appropriate in this group."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=about&forum=1264

There are no discussions going on there. Why is that?

[Mariana]

10. I think you should stop pretending you don't know the SOP for this group. nt.

[MineralMan]

12. When you become the admin of this site, you can

make such recommendations. Until then, the Religion Group is open to all, believers and non-believers alike.

There is an Atheists & Agnostics Group, which is a protected group for people who so identify. There are several other groups that are specifically for believers. The Religion Group is for everyone who wants to discuss Religion from any point of view.

It is not the people who are here to do that who need to move.

[Act_of_Reparation]

16. I think if you're gonna rofl, you should try saying something funny first.

But you know me, I don't like to complain.

[PragmaticDem]

9. This room seems to be more of who hates who.

[edhopper]

11. "I don't hate believers

but I pity the fools."

Clubber Lang

[PragmaticDem]

13. And the room is also about practicing snark.

[edhopper]

19. At this point

I don't have to practice.

[cornball 24]

21. Agree. Perhaps there should be a sub-category "Snark Tank"!

[guillaumeb]

22. But the hate actually seems to be so one sided.

And so obviously one sided.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

23. Yeah you would think those that won't listen to how a group defines themself

would know better, but, alas, you continue to do it.

Your passive-aggressive schtick is getting old. And it's just made worse by your "there are so many people here that just like sarcasm and negativity" and then you do this crap.

[guillaumeb]

25. Perhaps this observation makes you uncomfortable.

I understand. But the negativity is so incredibly obvious, and it is directed toward nearly anyone who posts here who does not share the negative attitude about religion.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

28. That's just not true.

The exact thing could be said about the reaction of those who just don't want to hear anything negative about religion.

[guillaumeb]

34. It could, but a reading of actual responses here would not support it.

The negativity from posters is mainly confined to one side, a side which confuses condescension with coherence, and insult for insight.

[PragmaticDem]

32. This topic was always going to be contentious.

No doubt others think it is one sided on the other side. People in this room should make it less personal and more about the topic.

[guillaumeb]

35. I agree. But if one needs to find enemies, one can find or create them.

And thus prevent any actual dialogue.

[trotsky]

15. Sad thing is, these could be the best they can muster.

No wonder more and more are self-identifying as not religious.

[Act_of_Reparation]

17. There are no better advocates for gods.

Apologetics is so rote at this point you could just write the name "William Lane Craig" on a watermelon and achieve the same effect.

[guillaumeb]

18. Remove the beam from your own eye......

before removing the speck from your neighbor's eye.

[MineralMan]

24. And in your own words?

...

[guillaumeb]

26. Be the change that you wish to see.

If one wishes to see tolerance, and respect, one should show it.

[MineralMan]

27. Those are Gandhi's words, perhaps, or another wise person's, not yours.

They are the words of a bumper sticker slogan. Have you any words of your own, Guy?

My last reply in this subthread.

[AtheistCrusader]

29. Please, you won't even allow us to define ourselves, when our definition matches that of every

major dictionary that records the English language.

[Binkie The Clown]

30. I'll advocate for Odin if nobody else wants him. nt

[NeoGreen]

31. You want to "what" with Odin?

(at least I was amused)

[WhiteTara]

33. I do tithe to the Car God

frequently.