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Eugene

(61,805 posts)
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 07:27 AM Jan 2018

Pope shocks Chile by accusing sex abuse victims of slander

Source: Associated Press

Pope shocks Chile by accusing sex abuse victims of slander

By NICOLE WINFIELD
Today

SANTIAGO, Chile (AP) — Pope Francis accused victims of Chile’s most notorious pedophile of slander Thursday, an astonishing end to a visit meant to help heal the wounds of a sex abuse scandal that has cost the Catholic Church its credibility in the country.

Francis said that until he sees proof that Bishop Juan Barros was complicit in covering up the sex crimes of the Rev. Fernando Karadima, such accusations against Barros are “all calumny.”

The pope’s remarks drew shock from Chileans and immediate rebuke from victims and their advocates. They noted the accusers were deemed credible enough by the Vatican that it sentenced Karadima to a lifetime of “penance and prayer” for his crimes in 2011. A Chilean judge also found the victims to be credible, saying that while she had to drop criminal charges against Karadima because too much time had passed, proof of his crimes wasn’t lacking.

“As if I could have taken a selfie or a photo while Karadima abused me and others and Juan Barros stood by watching it all,” tweeted Barros’ most vocal accuser, Juan Carlos Cruz. “These people are truly crazy, and the pontiff talks about atonement to the victims. Nothing has changed, and his plea for forgiveness is empty.”

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Pope shocks Chile by accusing sex abuse victims of slander (Original Post) Eugene Jan 2018 OP
Why Cartoonist Jan 2018 #1
Francis seemed so nice DonCoquixote Jan 2018 #2
This is significant. JNelson6563 Jan 2018 #3
Leopards always show their spots. 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2018 #4
There is a South Park episode that covers this. Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #5
Shame on him! MineralMan Jan 2018 #6
He's different. He's special. He's a breath of fresh air. He'll change things. trotsky Jan 2018 #7
He's SOOOOOOOO liberal. He's the pope we need. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2018 #9
Are you kidding me? trotsky Jan 2018 #14
Where is that "cautiously optimistic" crowd now? Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #10
Oh yeah, I forgot "cautiously optimistic"!!! trotsky Jan 2018 #13
Define "shock" Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #8
"Bold move, Cotton. Let's see how this plays out for him." AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #11
Reporting being violated by a pedophile is slander? Nitram Jan 2018 #12
The Pope can so clearly see the wrongs, and unless his own, then he is blind. Anny61 Jan 2018 #15
Well, he thinks being gay is wrong, sooooooooo Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2018 #18
Those children tempted their abusers, and now they're lying about it? MineralMan Jan 2018 #16
He's fine with child abuse Lordquinton Jan 2018 #17

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
1. Why
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 07:40 AM
Jan 2018

What does Frank think he has accomplished? He has now told the world that he is a pedophile protector. #popetoo

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
2. Francis seemed so nice
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 07:45 AM
Jan 2018

but he had to reveal his self, the self that a church cannot help but compromise.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
3. This is significant.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 07:55 AM
Jan 2018

This will prove a turning point for this Pope. I predict he will become much less popular than he's been in a very short time.

What a blunder!

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
7. He's different. He's special. He's a breath of fresh air. He'll change things.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:23 AM
Jan 2018

Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

Some of us were never fooled. We were ignored.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,905 posts)
9. He's SOOOOOOOO liberal. He's the pope we need.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 10:34 AM
Jan 2018

He's going to make changes (they are just going to go really slowly). He's so different than the last guy.

I wonder if people are going to apologize for talking shit about those of us that knew he was the same douchebag in different clothing. And maybe they could take a moment to realize all the other shitty stuff he's said along the way that was pointed out.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
14. Are you kidding me?
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 11:39 AM
Jan 2018

We'll never get anything resembling an apology. Thankfully most of the people crowing about him initially are now gone from DU, either by their own decision or that of the site owners.

Nitram

(22,755 posts)
12. Reporting being violated by a pedophile is slander?
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 11:27 AM
Jan 2018

That's giving the accused a huge amount of benefit of the doubt. It is the victims that deserve that until proven otherwise. Shame!

 

Anny61

(100 posts)
15. The Pope can so clearly see the wrongs, and unless his own, then he is blind.
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 12:08 PM
Jan 2018

People, the way too many roll.

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
16. Those children tempted their abusers, and now they're lying about it?
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 12:09 PM
Jan 2018

Is that what you're saying, Papa? Are you speaking with God's voice, Your Holiness?

Give us a freaking sign, won't you?

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
17. He's fine with child abuse
Fri Jan 19, 2018, 03:51 PM
Jan 2018

Hepraised it, calling it beautiful, as long as you don't hit their face, to spare their dignity.

He also implied anyone insulting the church should expect harm.

Comments about transgender issues, LGBTQIA stuff.

But what does he know, he's just some biblical literalist.

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