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MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:11 PM Jan 2018

The Bible Is a Huge, Tedious Tome to Study

Very, very few people are familiar with everything contained in it, including ministers, pastors and priests. Even if someone has read the entire Old and New Testaments, word for word, from beginning to end, it's really impossible to always keep in mind everything it contains. I've read the entire Bible half a dozen times, and still come across passages I don't remember reading from time to time.

I've read it so many times, because I'm a voracious, fast reader and an atheist who is interested in religious scriptures, the Bible in particular. At one time, while an adolescent Sunday School student, I memorized the entire book of Matthew for a Bible verse memorization contest. I won, but had wasted my time, since the teacher stopped me and gave me the prize before I had even finished reciting Chapter 2. I was disappointed.

I've slogged through even Numbers and Deuteronomy six times. No way do I remember all of that genealogy. It's easy enough to go back and find what I need, if I ever need any of that information. That need seldom arises, indeed.

My point is that a complete knowledge of the Bible is exceedingly rare among individuals, regardless of their profession. Instead, people have their favorite books, chapters and verses that they remember well. One pastor, for example, might focus on Matthew, and pay less attention to the other four Gospels, except when a particular chapter is useful. Another might focus almost solely on one or more epistles from Paul to someone or to some church. Yet another will adore the book of Acts, but never look at the book of James. While they may also have a good acquaintance with other books and portions of the Bible, almost nobody has instant recall of the whole thing.

What that means is that there are always surprises to be discovered. There are contradictions in the Bible, but most of those aren't well known. They're inconvenient, so it's convenient to skip over them. It's interesting to pose a single difficult question to a wide range of pastors and other clergy, just to see what they remember.

My favorite of those questions is, "Which Old Testament Prophet suffered from complete alopecia or baldness?" It's a tiny detail, but is part of a story that should be familiar to anyone who is a serious student. Almost nobody I've asked, including dozens of clergy, was able to answer that it was "Elisha." Now, if you ask about the story of "Elisha and the Two Bears," you'll get recognition from some, but not all clergy members, but the fact that Elisha was bald is almost universally forgotten, even though it's a pivotal part of the story.

Is that important? No, it's not, really. It's just illustrative of the impossibility of remembering everything that is in the Bible. No doubt there are a few people who do have a thorough knowledge of the entire thing, but it's a very, very rare accomplishment.

And yet, many people claim to "follow the Bible." What they mean is that they follow the parts they know and care about, and essentially ignore all the rest of it. If you attend a particular church for a few years, you will hear the same verses read as texts at the same week in the liturgical calendar, every year. You will hear a couple of chapters from Psalms, for example, but will almost never hear the rest of them. That's because they don't illustrate some point that needs to be made in that church.

Christianity is interesting. It's made up of hundreds of major and thousands of minor denominations. All focus on slightly different portions of the bible, depending on the unique doctrine presented by that denomination. If you go then, to a very different denomination's church, you might not ever hear those parts of the Bible you heard at the other church. Christianity is not a unified religion, by any means, and the Bible is understood and studied differently by every sect and denomination.

It's all very interesting, if you're interested in that sort of thing.

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The Bible Is a Huge, Tedious Tome to Study (Original Post) MineralMan Jan 2018 OP
I'm sure you are right... hlthe2b Jan 2018 #1
Yes. That adds to the difficulty, for sure. MineralMan Jan 2018 #2
Honestly, I think it gets blown out of proportion. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #4
While differences between denominations are minor, MineralMan Jan 2018 #7
I've always found it exceedingly annoying gay texan Jan 2018 #3
I wouldn't say "annoying." Tedious perhaps MineralMan Jan 2018 #5
Ms Eddy's book is well, um gay texan Jan 2018 #6
Fascinating. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #8

hlthe2b

(102,200 posts)
1. I'm sure you are right...
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:19 PM
Jan 2018

But, given how many "translations", how many very human interpretations have added to the content, it has always felt a bit like the game "telephone" (Chinese whispers) to me. That and the myriad of ways people use one or another interpretation as a cudgel against others has always turned me off.

That said, my parents had a very large, beautifully illustrated Masonic bible that I still like to peruse from time to time. I just look upon it as philosophy and poetry.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
2. Yes. That adds to the difficulty, for sure.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:21 PM
Jan 2018

I frequently compare passages in multiple translations when I'm doing research. It's interesting, and even subtle changes can alter the meaning of some of the content.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
4. Honestly, I think it gets blown out of proportion.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jan 2018

Do we have any evidence these differences in translation lead to drastically different interpretations of scripture? I'm inclined to think it hasn't really happened. Most of the issues dividing Christian denominations are relatively minor. Everyone seems to believe the same basic schtick.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
7. While differences between denominations are minor,
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:42 PM
Jan 2018

differences in translations can be pretty crucial, really. Changing a single word can alter the meaning of what is written significantly. There's a thread here, fairly high on the list, that discusses abortion and miscarriage and how alterations in scripture affect understanding of it. Link below:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1218268900

Some translations are actually due to different understandings between denominations that required changes in scripture to justify. I can't give you examples off the top of my head, though. I do know that non-trinitarian denominations prefer specific translations that support their doctrine.

Minor differences, of course. In most cases, denominations just select different passages on which to focus. That's adequate, since there are several different ways to look at things, depending on which parts of scripture you read.

gay texan

(2,440 posts)
3. I've always found it exceedingly annoying
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:32 PM
Jan 2018

To read.

The same thing goes for the Koran and the Book of Mormon.

The most annoying however is Mary Baker Eddy's "Science and Health with keys to the scriptures"

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
5. I wouldn't say "annoying." Tedious perhaps
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jan 2018

I found the Qu'ran almost incomprehensible, and the Book of Mormon painfully repetitive. I have not read Ms. Eddy's book, however. Perhaps I will, though.

I've read less of the Eastern Religions' scriptures. I should read more, but time...

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