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newcriminal

(2,190 posts)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 06:42 PM Mar 2018

Atheist kicked off Egyptian TV, advised to see psychiatrist

Host, cleric attack non-believer for rejecting god, with the former apologizing to viewers for bringing in 'confused, destructive' guest



By TOI staff
2 March 2018, 7:31 pm

An Egyptian atheist who was invited on privately owned TV network “Alhadath Alyoum” to present his ideas was summarily kicked off the show by its host earlier this month, with both the anchor and a second guest — a cleric — suggesting that the young man should see a psychiatrist.

In the February 11 segment, translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, atheist Mohammad Hashem was barely allowed to explain his positions. He managed to say that “there is no scientific evidence for the existence of God” and that he did not “need religion to have moral values or to be a productive member of society,” before he was assailed by host Mahmoud Abd Al-Halim.

“How can you say that? Who created you? Who made you exist as a human being? …How come you exist in this universe?” Abd Al-Halim asked.

Hashem then tried to raise the Big Bang theory as one possible origin of existence, but was once again cut off by the host, who dismissed him as “confused and unreliable.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/atheist-kicked-of-egyptian-tv-advised-to-see-psychiatrist/

You don't have to know Arabic to read Mohammad's face.

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Atheist kicked off Egyptian TV, advised to see psychiatrist (Original Post) newcriminal Mar 2018 OP
The Big Bang theory was first conceived by a Belgian priest. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #1
Objection. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2018 #8
Overruled. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #12
But your lawyer got suspended. trotsky Mar 2018 #13
I assume you're talking about Georges Lemaitre, correct? Act_of_Reparation Mar 2018 #14
Correct. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #15
I like Lemaitre. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2018 #16
Mutual respect. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #18
A Jesuit Ron Obvious Mar 2018 #9
He wasn't a Jesuit. newcriminal Mar 2018 #11
He was educated by Jesuits. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2018 #17
How many lives would be spared if there were no religions, one hundred billion? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #2
Honestly, I don't think there'd be a difference. newcriminal Mar 2018 #4
Quite true. Humans are so intent on self-extermination. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #7
Zillions. Religion is such a damn evil force and used in so many ways for authoritarianism and RKP5637 Mar 2018 #5
yeah, the number is high...Atheists tend to be peace loving, not all but most. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #6
And if there was no patriotism? guillaumeb Mar 2018 #19
Forced belief system. Absurd to be required to believe in a god in the sky. What century RKP5637 Mar 2018 #3
I hope he survives... Ron Obvious Mar 2018 #10

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. The Big Bang theory was first conceived by a Belgian priest.
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 06:44 PM
Mar 2018

Imagine that. Well, it is not really necessary to imagine that.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
16. I like Lemaitre.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 08:35 PM
Mar 2018

He seemed a man of great academic integrity. When Pope Pius XII declared the Big Bang scientific proof of Catholic cosmology, an annoyed Lemaitre had a long talk with the pontiff, during which he explained his theory proved nothing supernatural, and humbly requested that the Pope never discuss cosmology again. Pius XII agreed.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
18. Mutual respect.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 08:39 PM
Mar 2018

Father Georges Lemaitre well understood and separated his faith from his science. And this speaks well of the Pope also.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
9. A Jesuit
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:47 PM
Mar 2018

Fortunately he didn't let his religious beliefs interfere with his science. Jesuits do good science.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
17. He was educated by Jesuits.
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 08:39 PM
Mar 2018

But if you had explained that, you would have looked pedantic.

Well... more so than usual.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
5. Zillions. Religion is such a damn evil force and used in so many ways for authoritarianism and
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 06:47 PM
Mar 2018

sadistic punishment. ... and oneupmanship.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
19. And if there was no patriotism?
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 08:40 PM
Mar 2018

How many lives would have been spared?

Or would humans have found another way to divide and fight?

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
10. I hope he survives...
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:48 PM
Mar 2018

That young man is extremely courageous, because being murdered for apostasy is a real risk in Islamic societies.

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