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In search of God (Original Post) mia Mar 2018 OP
A very beautiful pairing of music and images. MineralMan Mar 2018 #1
If Satie found God... Act_of_Reparation Mar 2018 #2
I doubt very much that Satie was MineralMan Mar 2018 #3
People tend to mystify art. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2018 #4
Yes. That's true. MineralMan Mar 2018 #5

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
1. A very beautiful pairing of music and images.
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 10:23 AM
Mar 2018

Thank you for posting this. I am not a pianist, but that is a piece I taught myself to play, many years ago.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
3. I doubt very much that Satie was
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 02:42 PM
Mar 2018

considering any deity as he wrote that simple piano piece. Nor do I think Hopper was invoking any deities in his paintings. That's the conceit (in the literary sense) of the person who put the two together.

https://literarydevices.net/conceit/

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
4. People tend to mystify art.
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 03:07 PM
Mar 2018

Or attribute artistic talent to some connection to the divine.

The reality of the matter is art is a skill. A skill with an innate component, perhaps, but nevertheless a skill that is honed through many hours of instruction and practice. God didn't tell Satie which keys to press in what order. Music theory did.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
5. Yes. That's true.
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 03:28 PM
Mar 2018

For me, learning that piece on the piano took a while. I'm not a pianist. I'm an oboist. It's simple enough, really, though, and I learned the notes and hand positions pretty quickly. Then came the interpretation, which is far more difficult.

While it's true that music theory lies under the effect of the piece, most people who hear it aren't aware of the theory. Satie, of course, was, but his training and long practice allowed him to express something unique by using it. And so it is with all great composers. They create a new thing from their knowledge of theory and how to manipulate it.

I was introduced to Satie by playing a woodwind quintet he composed with the quintet I was part of for several years. That's what led me to the piano and that Gymnopedie #1. I understood the harmonies he used, because I know music theory, too. I more or less understand why he used them as he did. Still, I have never played that piece on the piano for any audience. Just for myself. I've played it many different ways, interpretation-wise, looking for the answer that the music asks. I'm not sure I ever got the answer just right. I would like to have heard the composer play it, but I suspect that he also played it differently at different times. It lends itself to that.

The notes on the piano are fixed in frequency. The scales and chords that can be produced are known and their interactions can be varied enormously. Satie, no doubt, sat down one day at his piano and explored the keyboard to come up with that composition. It came from his brain, not any deity. He created it, using the instrument at hand, also created by humans.

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