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Source: Vox, by Tara Isabella Burton
This week, an adaptation of one of the most banned childrens books of all time, Madeleine LEngles A Wrinkle in Time, will hit movie theaters nationwide. The story follows Meg Murry, a moody but brilliant young girl who travels to another planet under the auspices of three mysterious supernatural beings to save both her long-lost physicist father and, later, her prodigy baby brother Charles Wallace.
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For LEngle, who died in 2007, the heart of Christianity was paradox. A vast unknowable God, who defied comprehension, was at the same time a fragile human being: the Jesus Christ who died on the cross. In her 1996 series of reflections, Penguins and Golden Calves, LEngle wrote:
What I believe is so magnificent, so glorious, that [my belief] is beyond finite comprehension. To believe that the universe was created by a purposeful being is one thing. To believe that this Creator took on human vesture, accepted death and mortality, was tempted, betrayed, broken, and all for love of us, defies reason. It is so wild that it terrifies some Christians who try to dogmatize their fear by lashing out at other Christians, because a tidy Christianity with all answers given is easier than one which reaches out to the wild wonder of Gods love, a love we dont even have to earn.
In other words, LEngles Christianity was about balancing seemingly impossible ideas paradox and discovering and maintaining faith, in spite of the seeming chaos of the surrounding world. It was about accepting both that God was bigger than the easy answers many people, including Christians, seek, and that the heart of Christianity lay, in some sense, in the love and vulnerability that were expressed when an almighty God became Jesus on earth.
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Much more at: https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/3/8/17090084/a-wrinkle-in-time-faith-christianity-movie-madeleine-lengle
longship
(40,416 posts)Rather let's just end with such notions.
It's always such with theist arguments. There's hardly any point in continuing a discussion with such bias.
I prefer to ask, "What evidence do you actually have?"
Hint: a book or a preacher's words is not a valid response.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Pointless. Exactly.
Why do you comment on positive "theist" OP's and threads? Given that it is pointless?
longship
(40,416 posts)There is no there there. Every argument is vacuous, without evidence.
Yet they insist that theirs is the solution.
I ask: to what?
A book? A preacher? I see no evidence. I hear nothing.
That's just the way it is. It's about time some folks get used to the way that the universe actually is. A universe without old bearded men in the sky.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)'I prefer to ask, "What evidence do you actually have?"'
Does that also apply to sentiments such as "Mold is just the fad thing of the day for everyone to be afraid of..."?
Or is it simply an I-only-do-it-when-it's-convenient-to-my-argument sort of thing?
edhopper
(33,484 posts)is this from another discussion? Because
longship
(40,416 posts)My position is pretty much constant. Theists should be able to provide the evidence for their deities' existence. If they cannot, and the extent that they do not is the extent that I cannot take their claims seriously.
That's pretty simple, actually. No mold arguments needed, whatever that might be saying.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)to ban the book again and again. No doubt L'Engle's Christianity informed her writing of it. It informed most of her writing. However, it can also be read and enjoyed without taking any of that into consideration. The audience for this new film will likely not take a religious message from it, really, unless someone explains what that message is and why it is a religious message.
It has been many, many years since I read A Wrinkle in Time. If this movie version is well-reviewed, I'll read the book again before seeing it. If the movie isn't a hit, I probably will just skip both the re-reading and the viewing. I'm not particularly compelled to see it.
It will be interesting to see how its target audience responds to the film.
Have you read the book?
edhopper
(33,484 posts)while beautifully written, it is a bit of a confusing mess.
Just like the Bible.