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(83,668 posts)We eat lamb.
hlthe2b
(102,141 posts)AT ALL... Obviously, those tenets never transferrred...
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)We just don't remember the anti-semetism any longer. But that's what started the tradition. Only recently did the Catholic church stop blaming Jews for killing Jesus. Well within most of ou lifetimes.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)opiate69
(10,129 posts)edhopper
(33,491 posts)it's so tasty?
Journeyman
(15,026 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,729 posts)We eat lamb.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Lambs were a traditional sacrifice, back in the day. Angus Dei...Jesus
greatauntoftriplets
(175,729 posts)They're young right now and the meat is said to be particularly good. For my family, it was always a Sunday or company dinner. I was always happy with leg of lamb because I don't much like ham because it's so salty.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)Since they don't believe Jesus was the Messiah and they can't eat ham seems to be a good enough reason for the right.
I always thought it was about variety. Turkey for Thanksgiving, Christmas goose, do something else for Easter?
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)dchill
(38,453 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,851 posts)Not everyone could afford lamb or beef over the centuries.
FirstLight
(13,357 posts)If you are living on stored food through the winter and easter/ostara is the first big ritual of spring...it would make sense that the pig might just be the first fresh meat of the year?
I could have worded that better, but you get my drift...
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)animals have given birth and young ones grown enough to butcher.
dhol82
(9,352 posts)femmedem
(8,197 posts)"...Butchered in the fall, most hams were prepared and allowed to properly cure over the winter to further develop their flavor. This was a particularly important food source this time of year in some parts of the world where the rest of the stored meat would have already been eaten, with little other meat of any real quality available. This was the case in North America where the other traditional spring meat, lamb, was (and still is) less in vogue, which is also why eating ham on Easter in North America is much more popular than other regions where Easter is celebrated."
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2015/03/ham-traditionally-eaten-easter-2/
Farmer-Rick
(10,140 posts)Early spring was when most of the stored foods had already been eaten and seeds were just getting planted. Food was scarce, people were pulling out any food they had left. If your sheep or pigs made it through the winter and had lamb or piglets, you'd be looking at them with a growling belly and hungry eyes.
PJMcK
(21,998 posts)Since I'm now an atheist, maybe that's why I don't care for lamb.
It's a shame, really. But there it is.
Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)My local butcher always has a pretty good stock of it just in time for Passover.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Indeed...
dhol82
(9,352 posts)rickford66
(5,522 posts)Personally, I hate ham.
sl8
(13,679 posts)TlalocW
(15,377 posts)To show that they were Christians and not Jews, and that they shouldn't be bothered, people would put up a butchered hog outside their home to show they were having ham for Easter. At least, that's one story.
Ham and religion also play a part in some of our common sayings. A pig in a poke meaning not being able to inspect something before buying it comes from when Muslims ruled southern Spain. They banned pork so a black market rose up and putting a young pig in a sack (poke) to secret what kind of sale you were conducting became common. If your contact wasn't on the up-and-up, they might substitute a cat, and it was discovered when you, "let the cat out of the bag," which then became a phrase for revealing a secret.
TlalocW
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Every year. I never did, though.
Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)While in Peru last year my wife ate a guinea pig so now I have to watch her around the rabbit.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Once a rodentivore...
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)SeattleVet
(5,477 posts)either on the rotisserie or in the slow cooker.
I started when my friend's kids were young, and have continued for probably 15 or 20 years now.
Never did it as a stew, though...
hunter
(38,304 posts)My great grandma didn't understand what the problem was.
Rabbits were meat. Meat on the table was always a good thing.
I used to watch her cut apart freshly dead fish, birds, and mammals. Her hands moved faster than I could follow.
Kali
(55,004 posts)(fried chicken for the 4th o' July! )
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)After Ferdinand and Isabel united Spain. I could be wrong about the origin but I'm pretty sure the motive was anti Semitic.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)dlk
(11,514 posts)Freddie
(9,257 posts)Ham is a way easier meal to make. No gravy or mashed potatoes required.
appleannie1943
(1,303 posts)He said both were a blasphemy to God. So if you are a homophobe, you should not eat pork, shrimp, lobsters, clams, oysters etc. If so you abide by one rule and overlook the other. In fact you should not eat the fruit of hybrid seeds either. That was another no no. At this house, we will be having ham tomorrow and I would be willing to bet the green beans and yams were the fruit of hybrid plants. If my granddaughter and her wife were here, they would be welcome to eat with us.
Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do. Anne Lamott
appleannie1943
(1,303 posts)I prefer the New Testament as well.
Igel
(35,282 posts)An adjective. "Levitical", in English.
Book of regulations and procedures for the Levites to follow.
NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)MineralMan
(146,262 posts)There are, however, Levites, the rules for which the book describes.
NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)...I ate a pound of bacon for the Ostara celebration. Ham is a socially acceptable substitute.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)If I did that. He would waggle his finger at me.
NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)...there is that too...
Igel
(35,282 posts)And it's on Sunday.
Because it's not Jewish. "We" dropped Passover and accommodated worship on the usual day of the week and *not* on Shabbat because Europeans and Asians (by which I mean those in Asia minor) hated Jews. For a while, Saturday was a fast day, a day of mourning. And the whole Quartodeciman controversy, with the churches in and around Jerusalem that kept to what they'd inherited losing out to Rome and what it wanted, meant Easter was in and Passover was out.
Not that there was any love lost over the issue between Quartodeciman Xians and the synagogues. The rabbis were fed up with the otherwise Torah-observant Jewish Xians lurking in their ranks. But between ostracism by the synagogues, anti-Semitism against Jews in the diaspora, and Catholic/mainstream pressure, they didn't stand a chance. Being in praise of pork was just an added signal, "Hey, I'm not one of them."
(Yes, all it takes is to be Torah-observant for muddleheaded bigots to assume you're Jewish and act on their inner anti-Semite. No actual adherence to Judaism or relation to anybody Jewish needed. I've been hit up by anti-Semitism and I'm pretty much 100% Celtic. And one of the most visible signs is a studious avoidance all things hog.)
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)BACON!
Docreed2003
(16,850 posts)Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf***er. Pigs sleep and root in shit. That's a filthy animal. I ain't eat nothin' that ain't got enough sense enough to disregard its own faeces.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)since I got back my Ancestry DNA results and found I'm 3% European Jewish, I got a Kosher chicken. מזל טוב, "mazel tov"
woodsprite
(11,905 posts)turkey for Thanksgiving, Italian for Xmas eve, xmas day is deli trays, salads, and everyone brings a batch of their favorite homemade cookies.
I'm doing a small ham this year since it's just the 4 of us, with green beans, scalloped carrots, sweet potatoes, coleslaw, and rolls. Crap! I just realized I forgot dessert
Our holidays revolve around "something for everyone". Also, everybody gets to pick their birthday meal. For mine, I do tarragon chicken with white wine.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)AJT
(5,240 posts)gibraltar72
(7,499 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,838 posts)Easter is the first day after Lent, so people who are sick of all the fish for the past 40 days are going to want some meat. Pork is relatively inexpensive and plentiful, so it's a popular choice.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,271 posts)This has come up before. It turns out "we" is just a subset of Americans (you've already had a lot of replies saying they don't, in their families).
Here was my post rounding up European Easter food traditions - almost anything apart from ham:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=214&topic_id=204998&mesg_id=205107
and a member (shame they don't post any more, I always like their posts) talking about the ads:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=263&topic_id=42667&mesg_id=42686