Clergy reject Missouri bill on concealed guns in churches

[guillaumeb]

From the article:

A group of religious leaders is condemning a Missouri bill to permit people to carry concealed firearms in church without permission from clergy, with St. Louis’ Catholic archbishop threatening to sue if the bill is signed into law.
The bill would “broaden Second Amendment rights at the expense of the First Amendment right of religious liberty,” said Archbishop Robert J. Carlson.

To read more:

https://religionnews.com/2018/04/12/clergy-reject-missouri-bill-on-concealed-guns-in-churches/

[FBaggins]

1. Does without permission mean unless otherwise posted?

Or does it mean that churches can’t set their own rules on their property?

The second could never pass muster, the first might not even be a change

[guillaumeb]

2. A good question. The article does not specify.

I would guess that each church would have to post signage like stores do regarding concealed or open carrying of guns. It sounds is if the law would give the Second Amendment a priority over the First.

[yallerdawg]

3. Common sense gun reform.

The problem isn't "needing more guns" in public places.

The campaign mirrors years of activism by faith groups in other states. In 2014, prominent rabbis, pastors and bishops in Georgia publicly opposed legislation allowing people to carry firearms in sanctuaries if permitted by an individual place of worship. When the bill was passed, groups of Episcopal and Catholic churches in Georgia promptly banned guns — with a few exceptions, such as those carried by law enforcement — from their property. Similarly, when Texas expanded its open-carry laws in 2016, the Catholic diocese in Dallas banned guns in all of its churches.

More recently, many religious organizations and clergy members participated in the March for Our Lives last month — a sprawling protest calling for stricter gun control laws.

[guillaumeb]

4. When I posted about clergy participation in the march the response was......

expected in one sense, and sad in another.

[yallerdawg]

5. Whenever disparate groups agree on something...

you'd think it would be something we would celebrate!

You'd think.

[guillaumeb]

6. I would.

And still do. But there are exceptions.

[Voltaire2]

7. This is great!

Nobody showed up to shit on your parade route, so you pretended like they did anyway.

[Mariana]

8. Habits can be ingrained. nt.

[guillaumeb]

10. See #9.

[guillaumeb]

9. Thank you for showing up, and confirming the correctness of my

earlier post on the 11th Commandment.

[Voltaire2]

11. not even a hint of self reflection

You should see a recent whingey sermon here about hypocrisy.

[guillaumeb]

12. Do you ever engage in self reflection?

Feel free to ignore this question as well.