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Please take my question in for a minute. (Original Post) Chickensoup Jun 2018 OP
I think you meant prophet underthematrix Jun 2018 #1
Thanks, sometimes my phone does Chickensoup Jun 2018 #2
I know exactly what you mean. The spelling thing drives me crazy. underthematrix Jun 2018 #9
muhammad! 4139 Jun 2018 #3
Why not? Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #4
It is a question of hypocrisy of believe and practice. Chickensoup Jun 2018 #11
How would you know what side your gods are on? Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #16
You get that most Biblical prophets were homophobic, misogynistic, baby-killing degenerates, right? malchickiwick Jun 2018 #5
uthinks very interesting stuff. Chickensoup Jun 2018 #8
Neither group represents the good guys, so, sure. Pope George Ringo II Jun 2018 #6
Wow. Chickensoup Jun 2018 #12
The Satan character's body count for the entire mythology is ten people Pope George Ringo II Jun 2018 #13
Never forget the... NeoGreen Jun 2018 #23
Don't you mean "wow, just wow"? n/t trotsky Jun 2018 #25
I see what you did there Heddi Jun 2018 #29
Prophets UnTied Jun 2018 #7
Great insight. Chickensoup Jun 2018 #10
Of course most of them would be Republicans, if they had to choose. Mariana Jun 2018 #14
I am so glad I asked the question. Chickensoup Jun 2018 #18
No. And they wouldn't be Democrats, either. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2018 #15
Thanks for expanding our horizons . Chickensoup Jun 2018 #19
Anytime! Act_of_Reparation Jun 2018 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Heddi Jun 2018 #30
tee hee hee Heddi Jun 2018 #31
I'm sure some of them would be Lordquinton Jun 2018 #17
Before I asked the question to myself Chickensoup Jun 2018 #20
The God of Abraham would do quite well in the Republican Party. 3Hotdogs Jun 2018 #21
WWJD? nt No Vested Interest Jun 2018 #24
Paul would be edhopper Jun 2018 #26
Why does it matter? trotsky Jun 2018 #27
Why does it matter? You asked. Chickensoup Jun 2018 #33
So can you prove that they're wrong about god, and you're right? trotsky Jun 2018 #34
There is no possible answer. MineralMan Jun 2018 #28
Back so soon Heddi Jun 2018 #32
Jonah, perhaps? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2018 #35

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
5. You get that most Biblical prophets were homophobic, misogynistic, baby-killing degenerates, right?
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 05:34 PM
Jun 2018

Methinks they'd fit right in.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
13. The Satan character's body count for the entire mythology is ten people
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:15 PM
Jun 2018

And half of that was acting as the Jehovah Monster's henchman in the Job caper. Still, let's give him full responsibility for the five he killed on the Jehovah Monster's dare: Ten total kills. On the plus side, his first appearance was as a very Promethean knowledge-bringer type of character. Besides, Luke Skywalker killed a few stormtroopers too, so what the heck.

2 Kings 2:23-24. Forty-two children murdered for calling one of these prophets bald. Considering that by itself that represents more than four times the Satan character's total kill count, it's hard to see how they're supposed to be the good guys when they run around murdering dozens of children over a few laughs about baldness. It's been a while since I read the mythology, but I'm having a hard time thinking of any combination of things the Satan character did which is as bad as freaking murdering forty-two children over some bald jokes. It seems pretty Republican, if we're honest.

NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
23. Never forget the...
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:17 PM
Jun 2018

...Amalekites...
http://biblehub.com/1_samuel/15-3.htm

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"

UnTied

(58 posts)
7. Prophets
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jun 2018

I am tickled to see folks mentioning the prophets. Really, if the (small c) republican christians would read the Bible in its entirety they would see(in Revelations in particular) that false prophets are to come to make way for Satan to come and reek havoc with the true believers. They SHOULD see that they are being encouraged to see good in cutting $ for essential services, finding ways to make starving the poor look "responsible". IF I were that religious, that would scare me. BUT, the Republican party has had a mission for over 40 yrs to frame liberals and DEMs as godless, worthless snowflakes. It worked. Conservatives think we are weak.
Mentioning false prophets should bend some ears.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
14. Of course most of them would be Republicans, if they had to choose.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:19 PM
Jun 2018

As already pointed out, they tended to be misogynistic and homophobic. They were also generally racist, genocidal, approved of slavery, and thought group-participation torture-executions were a dandy way to punish criminals.

What do you think they would choose?

Chickensoup

(650 posts)
18. I am so glad I asked the question.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:16 PM
Jun 2018

I have learned a lot by picking your brain.
you and the others opened my thought
process and elevated it.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
15. No. And they wouldn't be Democrats, either.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:27 PM
Jun 2018

Because try as though you'd like, you can't pigeonhole bronze and iron age primitves into our modern political paradigm. Not everything they said jives with modern conservatism, and even less of what they said jives with modern liberalism. Maybe instead of looking for guidance from people who lived and died more than a millennia before our nation was founded, we should look to political scientists, sociologists, and policy wonks otherwise familiar with newfangled shit like "representative democracy" and "infrastructure".

Response to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #22)

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
17. I'm sure some of them would be
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:55 PM
Jun 2018

Jesus would be condemning politicians in general, Democrats included. Muhammad was rather convert or else Abraham, well... He was ready to kill his own son for the voices in his head, Republicans might be too liberal for him.

We know Joseph Smith would be a republican.

Chickensoup

(650 posts)
20. Before I asked the question to myself
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:25 PM
Jun 2018

I thought I had a clear answer.
After reading your and the other replies
I am back to the drawing board
Thanks.

3Hotdogs

(12,372 posts)
21. The God of Abraham would do quite well in the Republican Party.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:41 PM
Jun 2018

"Go and kill your son.

What? Well then go make Jose's kids miserable."

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
27. Why does it matter?
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 08:44 AM
Jun 2018

Arguing about whose political party is favored by god is a pointless exercise that solves NOTHING.

If your religion helps you live a better life, fine. But keep it out of politics, please. Use reasoned arguments to support policy, not divine edicts.

Chickensoup

(650 posts)
33. Why does it matter? You asked.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 02:48 PM
Jun 2018

Because half of Trump supporters do it
on religious grounds. They want
School prayers. No gay rights. They want to takes us back to the dark Ages.
Curtailing scientific knowledge such as genetic research to cure diseases and many more denials of our rights and freedoms.
Just listen to Sundays Evangelical TV
programs. We have to learn their language
before they rule us.


trotsky

(49,533 posts)
34. So can you prove that they're wrong about god, and you're right?
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 03:16 PM
Jun 2018

Didn't think so.

That's the problem.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
28. There is no possible answer.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:11 AM
Jun 2018

It is impossible to say. They are not living in America today. We do not even know if they lived at any time with certainty. Finally, at the time they supposedly lived, there was nothing even close to equivalent to today's culture or government.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
35. Jonah, perhaps?
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 03:37 PM
Jun 2018

The moral of his tale is that you shouldn't demand others are horribly punished, and you shouldn't be disappointed when they repent and are forgiven. Especially when you yourself were a sinner earlier in your life.

While he is officially called a 'prophet', his main function is to show what people ought not to do.

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