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Fri Aug 31, 2018, 01:25 PM

From 'Judeo-Christian' to 'Potluck Nation,' Eboo Patel pleads for religious pluralism

From the article:

Eboo Patel, a Muslim social activist who was born in India, is best-known as the founder and president of the Interfaith Youth Core, a nonprofit organization that partners with some 500 American colleges and universities to work on interfaith programming.
Now he’s written a new book, “Out of Many Faiths: Religious Diversity and the American Promise” (Sept. 4), the third in a series of books by scholars addressing issues of diversity called “Our Compelling Interests.”
In it, he offers a passionate defense of American religious diversity as one of the seminal features of U.S. democracy, stretching back to the vision of the Founding Fathers, who he says got it “exactly right.” He also proposes a new narrative to replace the Judeo-Christian motto with “Potluck Nation,” which he thinks better describes today’s religious diversity.


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https://religionnews.com/2018/08/30/eboo-patel-wants-to-replace-judeo-christian-with-potluck-nation/

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Reply From 'Judeo-Christian' to 'Potluck Nation,' Eboo Patel pleads for religious pluralism (Original post)
guillaumeb Aug 2018 OP
MineralMan Aug 2018 #1
trotsky Aug 2018 #2
MineralMan Aug 2018 #3
guillaumeb Aug 2018 #9
MineralMan Aug 2018 #4
Major Nikon Aug 2018 #7
guillaumeb Aug 2018 #10
Major Nikon Aug 2018 #12
guillaumeb Sep 2018 #16
Major Nikon Sep 2018 #21
guillaumeb Sep 2018 #22
Major Nikon Sep 2018 #23
Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #5
MineralMan Aug 2018 #6
guillaumeb Aug 2018 #11
Major Nikon Aug 2018 #15
guillaumeb Sep 2018 #18
Major Nikon Sep 2018 #19
Major Nikon Aug 2018 #13
guillaumeb Aug 2018 #8
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Major Nikon Sep 2018 #20

Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 02:28 PM

1. :shrug:

What do you take from this, guillaumeb? What do you want us to take from it? You posted it, so you must think it has value. Tell us what you think that value is, please.

I read the interview. I was unable to see anything in it that is in any way different from any other ecumenical, "multi-faith" reasoning. I'd ask the North American First Peoples what they thought of the invasion of their place by Christians. I'd ask, but most of them are long dead and their genetic line is almost gone, thanks to that invasion. How did they benefit?

When religious intolerance is the problem, how does bringing religions together solve the problem? Answer me that.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 02:33 PM

2. The author says when it comes to religious diversity the Founders got it "exactly right."

I guess we aren't supposed to worry about the details - just respectfully praise religion as the solution to all the problems religion has caused or exacerbated.

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Response to trotsky (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 02:35 PM

3. I say that we have ample evidence today that they did NOT get it

"exactly right." The "Christian" Right has proven that very well. They are working to make us all their vassals, and doing a pretty damned good job of it. A new Dark Ages is darkly rising. The first one was the work of another religious organization. Now, we face another.

We do not need more religion. We do not need unified religion. We need freedom from religious doctrine, altogether.

Feh!

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 07:56 PM

9. The establishment clause, among other things,

shows that you are incorrect in your assessment of the US founders.

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Response to trotsky (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 02:57 PM

4. A pity that author has such a limited audience at that website.

Or perhaps not a pity.

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Response to trotsky (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 05:44 PM

7. What they got right was throwing off the yoke of organized religion

They created a secular nation that didn’t get its marching orders from organized religion and wasn’t the least concerned with hocus pocus voodoo and imaginary friends. While this seems like a no brainer today it was literally revolutionary at the time.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 07:57 PM

10. Which contradicts MM's position.

Well done. We agree on this.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #10)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:24 PM

12. Fail

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 1, 2018, 04:38 PM

16. No, you actually struck a discordant note.

And it is only a failure for you if you value harmony about logic.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #16)

Sat Sep 1, 2018, 06:44 PM

21. "contradict" doesn't mean what you think it means

So perhaps you'd best work on literacy before you move on to logic. Just sayin'

Meanwhile, once again....

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #21)

Sun Sep 2, 2018, 12:56 PM

22. You really need a better dictionary.

Really.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #22)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 07:28 AM

23. You failed reason along with literacy and logic

Just because you assert something, doesn't make it so. I get that concept is difficult for you, but nonetheless bullshit has been called and your only answer is gibberish.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 04:50 PM

5. Desperately searches RNS looking for anything

that is not obviously deplorable, posts without any reflection, backfills desperately when content fails even superficial analysis.

Repeat.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 05:22 PM

6. Well, that site is an extraordinarily weak source.

It's open. I signed up to contribute to it. I haven't yet, but there's no vetting at all. Most of what is posted there is superficial.

But, you use what you have, I guess.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 07:57 PM

11. Your reponse might have been better,

but it is the usual.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #11)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:53 PM

15. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't make it invalid

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #15)

Sat Sep 1, 2018, 04:40 PM

18. Zero is zero from any direction.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #18)

Sat Sep 1, 2018, 06:43 PM

19. Batting 1000 with the imaginary fan club doesn't mean you made it off zero

Your "reponse" (sic) needs some work.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:48 PM

13. ...

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 07:55 PM

8. Intolerance can be fought,

and one way is to introduce different people, and hope that they will learn how much they have in common with each other.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:51 PM

14. Sure, because the most intolerant are always open to new ideas

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #14)

Sat Sep 1, 2018, 04:39 PM

17. An intolerant remark on your part.

Was it intentional irony?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #17)

Sat Sep 1, 2018, 06:44 PM

20. Fail

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