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Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:46 AM

American cardinal says his own mother is 'embarrassed to be Catholic'

You know the scandals in the Catholic Church are bad when a leading American cardinal says his own mother is ashamed to show her faith in public.

That's what Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York told CNN's Christiane Amanpour on Thursday.

"You don't think that did me in?" said Dolan, often one of the more cheery American churchmen.

"When my mom says -- she's in assisted living -- she said: I'm not going out for lunch, I'm kind of embarrassed to be Catholic."


https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/13/us/dolan-amanpour-cnntv/index.html

It's a month old, but I wonder if Al Capone and John Gotti ever had trouble getting their mothers to be seen with them in public.

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Reply American cardinal says his own mother is 'embarrassed to be Catholic' (Original post)
Pope George Ringo II Oct 2018 OP
3Hotdogs Oct 2018 #1
Pope George Ringo II Oct 2018 #2
violetpastille Oct 2018 #3
Pope George Ringo II Oct 2018 #4
violetpastille Oct 2018 #6
Pope George Ringo II Oct 2018 #7
MineralMan Oct 2018 #10
violetpastille Oct 2018 #11
MineralMan Oct 2018 #12
MineralMan Oct 2018 #5
bobbieinok Oct 2018 #8
bobbieinok Oct 2018 #9
Iggo Oct 2018 #14
Pope George Ringo II Oct 2018 #15
Iggo Oct 2018 #13

Response to Pope George Ringo II (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 12:05 PM

1. I don't know but I guess we can ask Gotti, Jr. if mom is embarassed about him.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 12:35 PM

2. He's got some just lovely quotes later down, too.

On whether homosexuality played a role in the church's sex abuse crisis: "I don't think that's the sole root of it." And a generous concession to atheists as the lowest rung of moral decency: "I don't care if you have no faith. You know that that is vicious, that's diabolical. You don't do it."

I know Tony Soprano lived in a fictional world of fubar morality and had a difficult relationship with his mother. Maybe Dolan has a lot in common with him, too?

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Response to Pope George Ringo II (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 12:42 PM

3. What would Jesus say about the Pope's outfits?



Someone here pointed out that even the liberal churches, the ones with female pastors and lots of rainbow flags and group participation if they were truly following Jesus would be raging against the patriarchal church-factories. They wouldn't be playing the guitar and singing about "Brother Tree".

It's time to pack the whole scheme in.. Or at least come up with a different name than "Christianity" and "Christians".

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Response to violetpastille (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 12:44 PM

4. Why should they not be called "christians"?

Let them keep the name. You can't sully what was never admirable.

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Response to Pope George Ringo II (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 01:03 PM

6. I ain't mad at Jesus (Christ Superstar)

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Response to violetpastille (Reply #6)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 01:12 PM

7. Not the best version of that song.

Fitting, I suppose. It's not like xianity is even the best version of religion, either.

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Response to violetpastille (Reply #6)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:41 PM

10. I rather prefer Violet Crumble.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #10)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:48 PM

11. Maybe Violet Beauraguarde.. n/t

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Response to violetpastille (Reply #11)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 09:57 AM

12. Well, that's a good-looking last name, for sure.

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Response to violetpastille (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 12:54 PM

5. Nice Dress, Pope!

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Response to Pope George Ringo II (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 02:30 PM

8. Doesn't Dolan have an extremely bad record on covering up sexual abuse by priests?

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Response to bobbieinok (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 02:40 PM

9. As archbishop of Milwaukee Dolan shifted $57 million to protect it from victims' lawsuits

Reported online in National Catholic Reporter July 2, 2013.

Google Dolan abuse by priests

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Response to bobbieinok (Reply #8)

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 03:27 PM

14. He has a very successful record of covering up for abusive priests.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #14)

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 05:46 PM

15. I frankly assume you have to in order to get promoted in that organization.

Kind of like being a "made man" for the mafia, you have to prove your loyalty before the big bucks come.

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Response to Pope George Ringo II (Original post)

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 03:26 PM

13. They should all be.

And seriously? Dolan? Fuck that guy.

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