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AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:15 PM Jun 2012

From those whacky folks at Focus on the Family

http://www.focusonlinecommunities.com/blogs/Finding_Home/2012/06/01/thoughts-on-homosexual-comic-book-characters

I post this here because I wanted to discuss "god's plan for human sexuality"....

Which is nothing because he doesn't exist. And if he did, then human sexuality would be just the way he wanted it, wouldn't it. He is all powerful, n'est pas? Perhaps parents should discuss STDs and pregnancy and its consequences and stuff like that before going off into some supernatural "plan".
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AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
3. They definitely aren't getting the agreement they've come to expect.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 02:30 PM
Jun 2012

I noticed that too.

I loved the "don't gay kids deserve superheros too?" one.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
4. What I don't get
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:00 PM
Jun 2012

is why Christians are so fixated on everybody else's genitals and what they do with them. On a psychological level, this much obsession with what other people are doing can't be healthy and even borders on 'creepy'. But, then, I'm not a psychologist, so who knows.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
6. A good place to start is with St Augustine, his thought on human sexuality has had a profound
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:20 PM
Jun 2012

affect on western religious thought on the subject.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
14. St. Augie had lust problems of his own
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:48 AM
Jun 2012

I'm sure his own struggles with lust, along with his pre-conversion adherence to Manichenism, strongly influenced his negative attitude towards women and sex. This attitude persists to this day.

Psychoanalysts call this phenomon reaction formation; for the rest of us, it's known as going to the opposite extreme--in spades.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
8. Because the more they can control your body, they can control your mind.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:49 PM
Jun 2012

And without control of your mind, their religion fails.

Lns.Lns

(99 posts)
5. I am changing my mind...
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:08 PM
Jun 2012

When I was younger I looked at various religious teachings. It was hard to begin with when you consider that Egyptians, Greeks, Norse, Romans, etc. all believed in their god/gods with just as much fervor as Christians, Jews, Islamists, etc. do today. So, pretty much at the end of a long thought process... it is hard to believe all the good people of one set of beliefs would be damned because of a bad choice and all the bad people of a "correct" choice would be saved.

In a naive and simple conclusion at the time, it gives people a reason to be better people or the world a crutch to lean on. I am good to people because it feels right to be understanding, forgiving where appropriate, and allowing people to believe what ever they want as long as it causes no harm to another. Also, hedging my own conclusion, if there is something omnipotent, being a good person should be worth something.

However, now I am changing my mind. So much death attributable to religions. So much abuse attached to the judgments put forward. So much sense of entitlement to the chosen and disparage of others to the subscribed choice. I thought we had evolved past the Salem witch trial mentality. In many ways, now it is less evolved and seems to be getting worse, just different tribunals. There have always been people, who will use religion for gain, but what I used to think was helping the greater humanity be better, it is making them worse.

As far as I can reason now, the only cure is a lot more education and a lot more tolerance.

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
12. I extend the welcome. And, looking at the thoughts you expound, brace yourself.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:03 PM
Jun 2012

Because they are 100% correct and lots of people don't like "100% correct." Not even a little bit.

But Enlightenment is worth it.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
10. Well I guess feeding the poor...
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 04:28 PM
Jun 2012

And helping out the underprivileged must have been one rung down from consideration on his list

Rob H.

(5,351 posts)
11. From the comments
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 04:30 PM
Jun 2012

It's official: LGBT people have the power to affect eel evolution. Huzzah!

I am surprised that such a relatively small segment of society (about 3%) have such an influence on changing our laws, morays, and traditions. Why does the tail wag the dog these days?




Edited to add: I also find it ironic that the same organization that included the paragraph below in one of its newsletters is now freaking out about gay superheroes. One of my best friends is gay and I'm pretty sure seeing his dad au naturel wouldn't have changed that.

...the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger. (Emphasis added)
 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
13. where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:00 PM
Jun 2012

Unless the Dad doesn't have a bigger penis, in which case he is in big trouble and should consult a shrink as soon as possible.

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