What is the worst thing that Satan/Lucifer has ever done, according to the Bible?

[DetlefK]

Satan is the Old Testament guy, Lucifer is the New Testament guy, but let's pretend they are the same person.



Now, Satan/Lucifer does a lot in the Bible, but can you guess what his biggest crime is?

The absolute Numero Uno?

The one thing that made him the worst of the worst?

I'm not talking about stuff that was added later on, Nonononononono. That doesn't count. I'm talking about the word of God himself, the Bible.



Can you guess?

[TreasonousBastard]

1. Introducing Eve to the concept of free will?

[exboyfil]

3. Anyone know the name

of the Harlan Ellison short story where God edits Genesis to make it even more favorable to Him. I wrote an essay on it, and my mind is failing now. Deathbird?

[PJMcK]

10. That would be my guess

By initiating "original sin," Satan put in motion the whole misery of humankind under the hand of the unmerciful god. You know, the god who kills people, floods the earth, lets babies die, sacrifices his own son and all the other wonderful things god does throughout the Bible.

But I think the OP is referring to something else. We don't see Lucifer a whole lot in the New Testament, especially after Jesus' death so I'm going to guess it's something in the Old Testament.

[Major Nikon]

2. He killed all of Job's kids and livestock on a bar bet with god

[exboyfil]

4. But who is worse

God or Satan in that story.

[Major Nikon]

9. He did get permission

[PJMcK]

11. That's some nice god, huh? (n/t)

[DetlefK]

6. Murdering kids is not the worst thing he did in the Bible. Try something else.

God gave Satan permission to kill those kids, but let's say that it's Satan's fault anyways.

[Major Nikon]

13. Actually he did absolutely nothing wrong according to the bible

As all he really does is faithfully serve the boss as his agent of free will.

[DetlefK]

15. Now we are getting very close. Do you want to know the worst thing he ever did?

Lucifer refused to acknowledge God as his master.

That's it.

According to the Bible, that's the worst-possible thing you could do. All the murder and human sacrifices and rape and slavery that's happening in the Bible pales in comparison to not accepting the Lord.

[Major Nikon]

17. God created satan, so you'd think he would have saw that one coming

[Mariana]

23. God's got a pretty high failure rate.

Has anything he's done turned out right? He created the angels, and a bunch of them hated his rule so much they attempted a coup. Then he creates human beings and they turned out so badly that he killed off the lot of them except for one family, hoping their descendants will be more righteous. That didn't work, everyone's still sinning, so he kludged up the crucifixion/resurrection thing.

And how's that plan working out? We have thousands of denominations of Christianity, plus who knows how many "independent" and "nondenominational" churches, each one with its own unique interpretation, and each one certain that they're correct and everyone else is doing it wrong. They can't all be right, so one's chance of picking the ONE TRVE Christian church is very slim indeed.

[keithbvadu2]

30. All evil done by S/L was pre-approved by God.

I was taught that God knows all; past, present, and future.

So God knew what S/L was going to do when he created Satan/Lucifer.

All evil done by S/L was pre-approved by God.

[Cartoonist]

22. The Big 3

Yep, failure to worship the omnipotent ego. That's why the first 3 commandments are all about him. Even murder doesn't rate that high.

Has there ever been a god less worthy of worship than that genocidal maniac on Cloud One?

[LuvNewcastle]

27. Yes, not only did he refuse God's authority over him,

he led a rebellion against him. I always wondered why he didn't kill Satan for that. Maybe he couldn't kill Satan. Maybe God created Satan to be immortal. It doesn't make since to leave your arch enemy alive to wreak more havoc on Earth, but that's what God did. Is God really perfect, then? He doesn't seem to have much foresight.

[DetlefK]

32. We shouldn't confuse OT God with NT God.

OT God was a wrathful and angry god and Satan was no more than a trickster-character, providing OT God with a counterpart to keep the plot going.

NT God is what the followers of the cult-leader Jesus made out of OT God. That's why the NT God is loving, yet at the same time angry: Because they tried to combine two different characters into one.

[LuvNewcastle]

34. NT God isn't very nice either.

In the end, he sends everyone who doesn't accept Jesus to Hell for eternity. Eternity? That's a mighty long time, and I don't think anybody deserves to spend that much time in Hell for anything they do over the short span of a human life.

[liberalmuse]

5. Nothing even close to what biblegod has done.

Seriously.

[Act_of_Reparation]

7. He hung toilet paper in the improper over-the-dowel position.

Also, he made a turkey sandwich that was a little dry.

Well, maybe not. God killed 99.9999999999% of all life on Earth in Genesis, so there's not much the Morningstar can do by comparison.

[Major Nikon]

18. Sounds like you are conveniently discounting satan's creation of the Teletubbies and Harry Potter

Might want to check under your bed and see if he's gotten to you.

[Act_of_Reparation]

20. Don't you dare pin that shit on Satan.

Satan gave us alcohol, blowjobs, and heavy metal. Teletubbies and Home Alone? That shit reeks of the Almighty if you ask me.

[Major Nikon]

21. Well, maybe not all of them but Tinky Winky for sure

I have it on good authority.

[Voltaire2]

24. Cmon everybuddy knows the Bible

stories where old sparky does horrible shit like killing everything in sight are just metaphors for an angry immoral god killing everything in sight.

[Act_of_Reparation]

35. Yeah. Everyone knows stoning people for being gay is a metaphor for... uhhh....

... stuff.

[k8conant]

8. Pride nt

[rampartc]

12. "better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven" milton

i think pride led to the rebellion of the angels. might be the worst.

he did not force eve to eat the fruit, the temptation of christ was not any kind of crime. god is the villian in job. what else do you have?

[TreasonousBastard]

14. OK, I'm gonna to be an annoying wiseass and ask...

Did you actually read "Paradise Lost" or get that quote from Star Trek?

[MineralMan]

28. Pretty much. Causing a challenge of authority.

Or so the story goes.

[marylandblue]

16. Satan's really a minor character and clearly God is charge of everything

So Satan's worst crime must be following orders.

In Job, he does make a bet with his boss, which could violate company policies against gambling in the work place. In his favor, it was only that one time and no worse than the basketball betting pool, so management will probably let him off with a warning.

[moose65]

29. Yep

Satan barely shows up in the Bible. How did he get elevated so that he’s almost God’s equal?? That’s just one of many things that has turned me into an atheist. Genesis doesn’t mention Satan at all - that was added much later. If Satan was really God’s enemy, wouldn’t he have followed the Hebrews through the desert, wreaking havoc at every turn? Seems like most of what we believe about Satan comes from Paradise Lost, not the Bible

[uriel1972]

31. Ol Nick, was promoted to instigator in chief...

So as to let God off the hook by those theodicy people.

[Bretton Garcia]

19. Giving us "knowledge," intelligence ...

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... was allegedly a horrible sin, caused by Satan. The slippery snake, tempting Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge.

But keep in mind that Satan was actually created by, and worked for, God. So God really wanted or allowed this. First 1) God made knowledge off limits. But then 2) he let us acquire it. Then 3) condemned us for it.

And ever since God allowed this, knowledge and reason and intelligence, have been the main target of Faith.

There are other readings of this ancient myth. But this is a useful one to start with.

God demands total, blind, stupid obedience. And cannot tolerate intelligent questions.

[PJMcK]

25. I just thought of the answer!

The worst thing Satan/Lucifer did was to try to overthrow God. That's why he was cast out of Heaven/Paradise.

Am I right?

[PubliusEnigma]

26. Free Will

[Voltaire2]

33. Well I learned that a gang of bad angels

called The Watchers went around having sex with women, which apparently caused such upheaval that they all got locked up in caves until the end of time.

That is some silly shit.