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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:14 AM Jun 2019

Religion blamed for India's poor gender equality grade

https://www.ucanews.com/news/religion-blamed-for-indias-poor-gender-equality-grade/85386

A global study of gender equality has placed India nearly at the bottom, with some research and rights groups accusing religion of playing a major role in Indians discriminating against women.

The Sustainable Development Goals Gender Index ranked India 95th out of 129 countries. The index measures how well nations are progressing toward achieving gender equality by 2030, which is part of the 17 sustainable development goals set by the United Nations. ...The index, developed by U.K.-based Equal Measures 2030 and released on June 4, is a joint effort of regional and global organizations. It placed Denmark at the top and Chad at the bottom.

Research done by Reshma Elizabeth Thomas of the University of Madras this year claims that religion is the main cause of depriving women of equality.

For most Indians, the ideal concept of women comes from Hindu mythology as 80 percent of Indians are Hindus. The non-Hindu population is also impacted by the majority view that women are incapable of being independent and should depend on men all through their lives, the research claimed.
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Religion blamed for India's poor gender equality grade (Original Post) trotsky Jun 2019 OP
I guess I'm confused Major Nikon Jun 2019 #1
All religion reflects human society and behavior. MineralMan Jun 2019 #2
You just don't understand Major Nikon Jun 2019 #3
But, I'm just a simple man, with simple thoughts. MineralMan Jun 2019 #4
I'm going to ask anyway Major Nikon Jun 2019 #5
Well, since humans invent their own religions, it's not remarkable MineralMan Jun 2019 #6
So does that mean when apologists defend a culture of child rape... Major Nikon Jun 2019 #7
What is the point of religion? Indeed! MineralMan Jun 2019 #8

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
1. I guess I'm confused
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:27 AM
Jun 2019

How do we work the "human behavior" angle into this one?

Followup question, is this really any different than the bible?

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
2. All religion reflects human society and behavior.
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:44 AM
Jun 2019

Misogynistic societies create misogynistic religions. Most societies are misogynistic, at least to some degree so, most religions are, as well.

Simple.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
3. You just don't understand
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:51 AM
Jun 2019

Religion is divinely inspired and as such can't possibly be nefarious. You just need to think harder about how they just aren't doing it right.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
5. I'm going to ask anyway
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:17 AM
Jun 2019

It just seems kinda funny that for pretty much all of recorded history, organized religion dominated virtually the entire political spectrum yet wasn't able to even make a dent in the trappings of "human nature". Only when societies became more enlightened and secular forces started to take over did we see a significant departure from some of the worst of it.

Yet somehow we must believe all that time religionists just weren't doing it right because they just didn't understand what their god was trying to tell them and the only way forward is to embrace that which conserved the status quo for so long.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
6. Well, since humans invent their own religions, it's not remarkable
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:26 AM
Jun 2019

that those religions reflect human nature. In fact, they tend to reinforce and create apologetics for that "human" nature.

Where their are kings, religions support kings. Where there is misogyny, religions support misogyny. That's because the human nature came before the religions. How could it be otherwise?

There were humans before there were religions. All religions are the product of the human mind, including human nature and all else.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
7. So does that mean when apologists defend a culture of child rape...
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:32 AM
Jun 2019

this is really just "human behavior"? I mean what's the point of religion if at the end of the day it just reinforces the worst of human behavior? Seems like the exact opposite of the whole idea.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
8. What is the point of religion? Indeed!
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:36 AM
Jun 2019

I hold that it really has no point, other than to reflect the culture that founded it.

Religion is a human-created thing. It has no other origin. That is demonstrated by the large variety of religions that have existed and still exist. If religion were independent of human beings, there would be just one religion. Clearly, that is not the case. Religions, like the deities they imagine, are many and varied.

Look at Christianity. It exists in a bewildering number of forms. Thousands of distinct versions of it, but all with the same overall name. In many cases, followers of one version consider the others to be invalid. Wars have been fought over the varieties of Christianity. All the work of human beings. Any deity worth its salt would put paid to all that confusion. But, since deities are only imaginary entities, they have no power at all.

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