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CloudWatcher

(1,845 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 02:35 PM Oct 2019

Biden denied communion over abortion rights

Tell me again that religion isn't evil?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/29/politics/joe-biden-denied-communion-south-carolina-catholic-church/index.html

(CNN)Former Vice President Joe Biden was denied communion Sunday at a Catholic church in South Carolina over his support for abortion rights.

Father Robert Morey, the pastor at Saint Anthony Catholic Church in Florence, told the Florence Morning News that he had denied Biden communion because "any public figure who advocates for abortion places himself or herself outside of Church teaching."


If you don't like abortions, don't get one. But don't tell me (or my family) what they can do.
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Biden denied communion over abortion rights (Original Post) CloudWatcher Oct 2019 OP
Biden doesn't advocate for abortion Ohiogal Oct 2019 #1
I advocate for women to get abortions. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #8
I'm pro-abortion. AtheistCrusader Oct 2019 #12
What a dick Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #2
And they wonder why they are losing people? edhopper Oct 2019 #3
I will never set foot in a Catholic church again for their silently advocating pedophilia - how does NoMoreRepugs Oct 2019 #4
Rape children, or cover up for rapists, you're OK. trotsky Oct 2019 #5
If you are a child rapist, not only do you get communion.., Major Nikon Oct 2019 #14
I have been a recovering catholic for 42 years. redstatebluegirl Oct 2019 #6
Biden should walk away from that hateful organization. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #7
If you don't like what they say, don't seek their approval. Igel Oct 2019 #9
Religion isn't evil Dorian Gray Oct 2019 #10
No, religion is evill, by its very nature. Cartoonist Oct 2019 #13
Sounds a lot like "guns don't kill people" Major Nikon Oct 2019 #15
Father Morey assumed more than he thought. MineralMan Oct 2019 #11
Father Morey should have his church's tax exemptions withdrawn muriel_volestrangler Oct 2019 #16

Ohiogal

(31,897 posts)
1. Biden doesn't advocate for abortion
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 02:40 PM
Oct 2019

Nobody goes around advocating for women to get abortions.

Biden advocates for women to have the right to determine their own healthcare.

I get so sick and tired of hearing the right wing zealots calling it pro-abortion when it's not, it's pro-choice.

Voltaire2

(12,954 posts)
8. I advocate for women to get abortions.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:42 PM
Oct 2019

It is a safe and simple procedure. If a women wants to terminate a pregnancy, abortion is an excellent choice. In fact it is pretty much the only choice. I'm a huge fan of safe and effective medical procedures.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
12. I'm pro-abortion.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:55 AM
Oct 2019

I'm pro-contraception too, but failing that, if ANYONE is in a situation where they are not ready, willing, or able to bear a child, I'm pro-abortion.

I can't have kids, I adopted the only child I have, and I'm open to adopting another, but if ANY person who is pregnant is not willing to carry to term for ANY reason, I support readily available and accessible abortion.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,368 posts)
4. I will never set foot in a Catholic church again for their silently advocating pedophilia - how does
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 02:46 PM
Oct 2019

that sound Father Morey??

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
5. Rape children, or cover up for rapists, you're OK.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 03:12 PM
Oct 2019

Advocate for women controlling their own bodies, NOT OK.

What a fucked up institution.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
14. If you are a child rapist, not only do you get communion..,
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 01:35 PM
Oct 2019

But you get a retirement, legal defense, and if necessary travel expenses to escape prosecution.

Advocate for women’s healthcare though and you go straight to hell.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
6. I have been a recovering catholic for 42 years.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 03:17 PM
Oct 2019

A friend was refused communion because one of the ladies in the church saw her name on a volunteer list for Planned Parenthood. I went home that day and told my parents I was finished with the church. It did not go over well, but I honestly did not care.

Igel

(35,270 posts)
9. If you don't like what they say, don't seek their approval.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 07:28 PM
Oct 2019

Seems simple. I've always wondered why people say, "I don't like what my organization stands for. I know, instead of leaving it and find one I do like--or maybe starting my own--I'll try to make sure it abides by my values and those that joined it because they agree with it can leave. Hey, I get all the assets if I win! Cool! Ain't I just speerichul?"

Seems simple. Forthright and honest versus arrogant and grasping. But I seem to be in the minority. Many like to be preachers and try to reform others.

Note that I don't agree with the Catholic Church's teaching on many things and see no reason to join it.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
10. Religion isn't evil
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:03 AM
Oct 2019

people may use the philosophy toward evil ends, but in and of themselves, religions are just religions. (And yes, many people do utilize religious beliefs for bad/evil ends. That's undeniable. this is a semantics argument.)

Anyhow, back to communion.

I don't know how this priest could have made the decision to do this. I think it's BS. (I'm a practicing RC, so I have bread in this fight. Pun intended.) That the priest made this decision and then went to the press about it.... UGH. I'd be so pissed if I were his parishioner.

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
13. No, religion is evill, by its very nature.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 12:35 PM
Oct 2019

It keeps humanity from the truth by offering up a fantasy world populated by mythical beings. It dismisses science by manufacturing their own reasons for the way things are. But worst of all, it creates an Us vs Them mentality that leads to wars. Yes, there are other causes for war, such as oil or land, but do we need to make up reasons?

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
15. Sounds a lot like "guns don't kill people"
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:51 AM
Oct 2019

Which while technically accurate conveniently ignores the fact that guns make killing people much more efficient.

So it is with organized religion. When someone is able to convince others they know what a conveniently unverifiable higher power is demanding of them, using that influence for nefarious purposes becomes much more efficient.

David Koresh and Warren Jeffs were able to convince their followers to bring their children to them so they could be raped with the full knowledge and consent from those followers. These are just two notable examples of things that happen every day hundreds of times all over the world. There is no philosophy which can be used in this way. This isn’t a matter of simply semantics.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
11. Father Morey assumed more than he thought.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:14 AM
Oct 2019

Thinking is better than assuming, generally. This is why the RCC is becoming more and more irrelevant all the time.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,264 posts)
16. Father Morey should have his church's tax exemptions withdrawn
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 04:10 PM
Oct 2019

for running to the press to shout about his political stance against a politician. This is abuse of the privileged position religion is given by the US constitution. Then tell the Catholics to take it all out of his salary.

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