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Related: About this forumAtheism and US citizenship - does anyone know of a poll on this?
It has been debated whether Bush 41 ever actually said that he didn't think atheists should be allowed to be US citizens.
Whether Bush said that or not, does anyone know how popular that position is, especially among Republicans?
I'm guessing that the number of Republicans who feel that way is pretty high, while someone else I know dismissed thinking such a terrible thing about Republicans as "kool-aid".
The issue came up in response to this: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/01/25/arizona-republicans-propose-bill-that-would-not-allow-atheists-to-graduate-high-school/
I seems pretty clear to me that among Republicans forcing people to swear to God is tasty political red meat. It would be nice, however, to have some numbers to back up that perception. I've seen the poll about voting for a president, and how many people wouldn't vote for an atheist, but that's not quite the same issue. So far my Google-foo has not been strong enough to discover such a poll.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)deny US citizenship to atheists.
I believe there are still some states which have laws prohibiting atheists from holding some offices.
And there are other countries which make you choose a religion to get a passport (I think Pakistan is one).
But US citizenship would be a new one on me.
Silent3
(15,178 posts)I'd like to know how many people, Republicans specifically, would say that they simply don't want atheists to be US citizens, that they'd prefer that atheists leave the US or convert, whether or not they'd propose getting their way by force of law.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)of atheists. But I have never heard that attached to the republican party or any other organizations official stance. And i have never heard of anyone proposing that as legislation.
Not saying it hasn't happened and will be interested if anyone else has information supporting your suggestion.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)a staunchly conservative Republican, to be their executive director.
okasha
(11,573 posts)barring atheists from some offices in Torcaso v. Warkins.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)that some states still had them, but I must have misread.
appleannie1
(5,066 posts)I think that is a strong yes! People seem to think I'm some intolerant religious nut. I'm really not. I think in a perfect world we all just believe in what we want, but the world isn't perfect, we have children to raise. Children are being influenced and atheism is turning them to drugs, homosexuality and other Godless behavior. I think atheists just need to go back to France and they can live their sinful life there.
"I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God." - President George W. Bush
Punishment For Atheism
I have put much thought into the proper punishment for atheist behavior and I seem to come to the same conclusion. They should spend the same time in jail as a rapist or child molester. Atheists practice the same things on a child's mind and that's what they deserve.
http://www.conservatipedia.com/2008/01/should-atheism-be-illegal.html
cbayer
(146,218 posts)tama
(9,137 posts)Silent3
(15,178 posts)...to a bit of John Hagee atheist bashing says a lot:
cbayer
(146,218 posts)It's part of their MO, as atheists represent the biggest threat to their "one way" form of theology.
LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)but here is a link to an 'America-love-it-or-leave-it' article from 2001, which indicates that religion is a key part of being American, and anyone who doesn't like it should leave.
http://web.archive.org/web/20020213210735/http://vietnow.com/artbar1.htm
I remember this being posted on a mostly-American non-political message-board to which I belonged in around 2004; and that some people agreed with it. I found it particularly offensive, as I have elderly friends and a relative who exercised their 'right to leave' America in the McCarthy Era, and this is a good example of the sort of attitude that drove them away.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,294 posts)'You can't spell "CRAZY" without "R-AZ"'