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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:39 AM Jun 2013

What Does 'Religion' Mean?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-laderman/what-does-religion-mean_b_3362228.html

Gary Laderman
Chair of the Department of Religion, Emory University

Posted: 06/08/2013 5:54 am

Can anyone tell me just what definition of the word religion is being used in the media these days? In the past, public use of the word was easy to identify: "religion" meant "belief in God" and, in general, was used to refer to the one true religion, Christianity. Today, "religion" can mean anything at all, from the most personal and intimate spirituality for the individual to the most diffuse cultural activity in any given society.

A new Gallup poll is declaring that according to a large majority of Americans religion is losing its influence in society, a perception this study and all the media coverage emphasize is not related to measures of personal religiosity such as church attendance or self-reports about the importance of religion. This news is on the heels of the now-familiar religion media story about the rise of the "nones" in American society, individuals who are not affiliated with any religion at all.

While survey results and pie charts are supposed to provide a clearer picture of a particular question or phenomenon, in the case of religion this data seem to be creating more distortion and confusion than enlightenment and insight. Some obvious questions come to mind when confronted with these recent polls concerning religion in America: Are there other measures for religious commitment than church attendance and self-reporting on a scale of importance? Is it more accurate to say that Americans perceive Christianity as losing its influence than religion in general? Can people who don't affiliate with any religious institution or didn't choose one of the available religious identities on the questionnaire still be religious?

On the other hand, and in the very same week, you have the publication of a Forbes article that asks, "Is Religion an Essential Driver of Economic Growth?" It offers a preview of an interview with Peter Berger, a well-known sociologist of religion who wrote one of the classics in the field, "The Sacred Canopy," and suggests the boundaries between religious orientations and cultural development are porous and historically determined. Focus is placed on another classic in the study of religion, Max Weber's "The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism," which argues that certain elements of the Protestant "lifestyle," like worldly asceticism, contributed to the emergence of modern capitalism.

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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. Interesting take.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:10 PM
Jun 2013

The article talks about "religion" being used to describe things outside of areas concerned with deities.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
7. Technically, no.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:22 PM
Jun 2013

Still, people uniformly respond to notions of something or some things greater, something more, be that patriotism, altruism, or any number of ideologies. And then in response to that, people often act in ways that are objectively irrational, acting in accord with that value. So, you cannot have divinity without a deity but you can have religious behavior without divinity.

IMO.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
10. I see your point and I think that is the basic point of the argument.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:59 PM
Jun 2013

There will be, of course, disagreement about the definition of religion, but it doe seem to have become more generalized.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. I think that's the point of the article.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:13 PM
Jun 2013

Religion is being used more generally and losing it's strong attachment to issues of theism.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
9. I have heard that argument made by both theists and atheists.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jun 2013

It all depends on how one defines religion. Some say football is a religion to them. In the article, someone says surfing is a religion to them.

The question is this - should (or does) the term only refer to issues of a deity or can (does) it apply to other things as well?

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
11. The problem comes when you have to check off your "religious beliefs."
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 01:41 PM
Jun 2013

And the confusion comes from misinterpreting the meaning of the "null set."

--imm

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
12. Isn't atheism often included when questions about religious beliefs are asked?
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jun 2013

It might be important to distinguish the "nones" (no religious affiliation) from atheism in some settings.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
13. Right. It's often included in the checklist as a religion.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:29 PM
Jun 2013

And that leads to some anomaly. Even replacing it with "none" is a problem, because it becomes a category, rather than a non-category.


--imm

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
14. Is Religion an Essential Driver of Economic Growth?
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jun 2013

It's a trifle to answer that with a loud no. China. Growing gangbusters. Not much taste for religion. Compare India. Compare Bangladesh. QED.

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