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Fri Feb 27, 2015, 01:11 AM


Burke Ready to "Resist" Pope On Divorce and Gay Marriage

This was from a couple weeks ago but I just learned of it tonight.

If Pope Francis wants to change Church doctrine on divorce and gay marriage, he'll have to go through Cardinal Raymond Burke.

That shouldn't shock anyone who has followed Burke's career path since he left St. Louis as archbishop in 2008, especially since the cantankerous, ultra-conservative prelate mansplained his way into the headlines last month by blaming women and gay clergy for the Church's molestation crisis. In October, when it appeared -- for a moment -- that the Vatican was ready to make a "seismic shift" on gay rights in the church, Burke used it as an opportunity to publicly remind folks that expressions of gayness can damage children.

But Burke went further this week, telling a French news program that he would feel compelled to "resist" Pope Francis if the pontiff tries to soften Church doctrine.

Burke and the pope are hardly buddies, and much has been made of the pope's decision to remove Burke from his spot on the church's highest court. But Burke's recent sit-down with France2, which aired Sunday, is notable for the interviewer's blunt probing of rocky relationship between the two spiritual leaders.

When one of their own was in charge the slightest bit of dissension while was treated as worse than treason. Now when we got someone the slightest bit progressive Burke and the more Catholic than Christ wing of the church all that about being obedient and loyal to the Holy Father goes right out the window. Francis has a lot more patience with these clowns than I do - Burke would've gotten a modern version of Decet Romanum Pontificem within 12 hours if I was in Francis's place.

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Fri Feb 27, 2015, 05:24 AM

1. That's what gets me about Burke et al

The blatant hypocrisy about obedience to the pope.

Burke telling grandparents to reject their gay children for fear that the grandchildren will not be as homophobic as he is tells us a lot about his "Christian values". But then, perhaps he is afraid for the next generation of bigots.

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Fri Feb 27, 2015, 09:44 AM

2. Burke really ought to crack open his bible for once.


Especially the New T. Especially this part of Matthew 7.

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits.

"Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?’ Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers.’" (Matt 7:15-23)

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