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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Tue Jan 30, 2018, 01:42 PM Jan 2018

Fun fact: Hitler was never elected but selected by Hindenburg

The absence of an effective government prompted two influential politicians, Franz von Papen and Alfred Hugenberg, along with several other industrialists and businessmen, to write a letter to Hindenburg. The signers urged Hindenburg to appoint Hitler as leader of a government "independent from parliamentary parties", which could turn into a movement that would "enrapture millions of people".[147][148]

Hindenburg reluctantly agreed to appoint Hitler as chancellor after two further parliamentary elections—in July and November 1932—had not resulted in the formation of a majority government. Hitler headed a short-lived coalition government formed by the NSDAP and Hugenberg's party, the German National People's Party (DNVP). On 30 January 1933, the new cabinet was sworn in during a brief ceremony in Hindenburg's office. The NSDAP gained three posts: Hitler was named chancellor, Wilhelm Frick Minister of the Interior, and Hermann Göring Minister of the Interior for Prussia.[149] Hitler had insisted on the ministerial positions as a way to gain control over the police in much of Germany.[150]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Appointment_as_chancellor

My point? He got into a position of power through sheer psychopathic deviousness. I challenge anyone to say Trump gained power through totally honest, non-psychopathic means. I dare you.

*deleted text not pertinent to this group* Yes, Trump bears a lot of similarities to Mussolini. Mussolini wasn't AS evil as Hitler. The huge difference between Hitler and Trump is the lack of strident anti-semitism. If his daughter had never married Kushner? Who knows, I sure as hell do not.

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Fun fact: Hitler was never elected but selected by Hindenburg (Original Post) steve2470 Jan 2018 OP
Muslims are a semetic people, too! atreides1 Jan 2018 #1
Your post is TOTALLY irrelevant! Behind the Aegis Jan 2018 #2
yes you are correct in what I was saying steve2470 Jan 2018 #5
Bullshit! Anti-Semitism refers to the hatred of Jews. PERIOD. grossproffit Jan 2018 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Jan 2018 #4
ok now I'm in a mood to dissect your um brilliance steve2470 Jan 2018 #6
What does your post have to do with the OP? EllieBC Jan 2018 #7

atreides1

(16,067 posts)
1. Muslims are a semetic people, too!
Tue Jan 30, 2018, 02:20 PM
Jan 2018

And just because his daughter married Jared Kushner, it doesn't mean a thing! Stephen Miller is Jewish, and from his own history we know that he's a racist, bigot, and misogynist!


Besides, there were Jews who fought for Hitler and the Nazis, look up ERHARD MILCH!


https://kansaspress.ku.edu/978-0-7006-1358-8.html
Hitler's Jewish Soldiers
The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
2. Your post is TOTALLY irrelevant!
Tue Jan 30, 2018, 03:56 PM
Jan 2018

Last edited Tue Jan 30, 2018, 05:13 PM - Edit history (1)

First, anti-Semitism is prejudice and hatred of JEWS not SEMITES. Trying to rewrite its definition is pathetic. It is no different than someone claiming inflammable means "not flammable" because the prefix in- means "not". Or, just as fucking stupid as people who claim "Islamophobia" is a "fear of Islam" and not prejudice and hate against Muslims. Second, while I agree his daughter's husband doesn't negate his anti-Semitism, what the OP is saying is he would likely be even less restrained in his anti-Semitism.

Who, other than apparently you, gives a fuck about Jews fighting with the Nazis. THAT ISN'T EVEN THE TOPIC! There were black slave owners, you want to pop over to the African-American group and pop in with that irrelevant piece of information in a thread about an anti-Black politician?!

This is the JEWISH GROUP and your comments are not welcome here. Do not do it again! If you can't show respect and stay on topic, see yourself out!

ON EDIT:

BTW, NO, many Muslims are not Semites. Some may be, but many are not. ARABS are Semites, but they aren't the only Muslims. Don't conflate "Arab" and "Muslim".

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
5. yes you are correct in what I was saying
Tue Jan 30, 2018, 09:27 PM
Jan 2018

If Trump had no family connections with any Jewish people, he might be trotting out more obvious anti-semitism by now.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
3. Bullshit! Anti-Semitism refers to the hatred of Jews. PERIOD.
Tue Jan 30, 2018, 06:54 PM
Jan 2018

The historical roots of the term “anti-Semitism” go back to the 19th century when it was invented and popularized by anti-Jewish German writers and intellectuals in the closing decades of the 19th century. The anthropology of that era gave the name “Semitic” – from the Hebrew “Shem,” one of Noah’s sons – to a family of languages that included Hebrew, Arabic, Assyrian and Phoenician; and labeled members of groups that spoke these languages as “Semites.” Through the ministrations of late-century racial “science,” Semitic was increasingly used to designate Jews as a “race” with inborn biological attributes. The use of the term “anti-Semitism” to specifically denote opposition and antagonism to Jews was first suggested by the German journalist Wilhelm Marr in his 1879 work The Victory of Judaism over Germanism, a best-seller that helped push “the Jewish question” to the center of German politics.

https://www.adl.org/education/resources/fact-sheets/response-to-common-inaccuracy-arabs-cannot-be-anti-semitic

Response to atreides1 (Reply #1)

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
6. ok now I'm in a mood to dissect your um brilliance
Tue Jan 30, 2018, 10:04 PM
Jan 2018

1- Who cares whether Muslims are semitic or not ? I wasn't even in that ballpark. Hmmmmmm. I see you got addressed down below by people much better versed than I.

2- I am well-aware that one can be antisemitic and still have Jewish family members. I meant if he did NOT...how would he be?

3- I really could not care less about Stephen Miller, who is a neo-Nazi as far as I'm concerned.

4- You're talking to one of the BETTER informed people on DU about Nazis and WW2. You better step your game way up next time. I was well aware of this already. Don't even try to educate me about WW2 and Nazis. There's only a few here at DU I will accept educating from, and you're not one of them.

5- Lastly, why such a hostile abrasive attitude? Last time I checked, we're ALL supposed to be pro-Jewish at DU.

Sorry if your life really sucks but you need some lessons in coping with your pain....if that's the case.

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