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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 07:52 PM Sep 2012

Milky Way Surrounded By Humongous Halo Of Hot Gas


CARL FRANZEN SEPTEMBER 24, 2012, 5:00 PM 3064
Scientists using NASA’s orbital X-ray space telescope Chandra have discovered that our own Milky Way Galaxy has a massive halo of superheated gas surrounding it, the agency announced on Monday.

It’s difficult to conceive of just how large the hot gas halo is, but NASA notes it could extend more than 300,000 light years out from its center, and have a mass equivalent between 10 billion suns and 60 billion suns, or just as many or more than all of the stars in the Milky Way itself, at a temperature “a few hundred times hotter” than the surface of our Sun (between 1 million and 2.5 million kelvin).

The hot gas halo could also help solve the great cosmic mystery of the missing baryons, or particles including protons and neutrons which ancient galaxies have in abundance and which are thought to have composed a sixth of the matter at the universe’s dawn, but which are found in about half that amount in our galaxy and its neighbors.

The newly discovered gas halo itself could be where the baryons have ended up during the course of the universe’s evolution.

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http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/milky-way-surrounded-by-humongous-halo-of-hot-gas.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

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Milky Way Surrounded By Humongous Halo Of Hot Gas (Original Post) n2doc Sep 2012 OP
Humongous Halo Of Hot Gas? Raster Sep 2012 #1
Somebody please tell Rush to shut up. Right Fucking Now! nt Xipe Totec Sep 2012 #2
Limpballs. The original gas giant. CrazyOrangeCat Sep 2012 #3
OK, we found the baryons central scrutinizer Sep 2012 #4
At a Romney speaking event. nt awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #7
DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE A FACE? Shampoobra Sep 2012 #5
It's an artist's interpretation, so talk to him or her. tridim Sep 2012 #6
A lot of people see faces in things. It's how our brains are wired.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #9
I do! I do! Bainbridge Bear Sep 2012 #15
Christie must have thrown down another 80 hot wings. complain jane Sep 2012 #8
It's 'god'!! sinkingfeeling Sep 2012 #10
Huh? How Hot is It???? Where? mojowork_n Sep 2012 #11
Temperature measures thermal movement. It means the baryons are moving very fast though diffuse. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #18
So that's a little bit like "thermal expansion?" mojowork_n Sep 2012 #20
Not like that. The case of water expanding as it goes from 4 degC to zero is almost unique Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #21
Got it, thanks. mojowork_n Sep 2012 #22
This Stuff Is Interesting DallasNE Sep 2012 #12
Well, it has been pretty well established that our Bainbridge Bear Sep 2012 #17
No one can stop us, we are all made of stars harun Sep 2012 #13
My God, it's full of farts! PD Turk Sep 2012 #14
There are other more localized halos of hot gas Bainbridge Bear Sep 2012 #16
Uh, aether? getting old in mke Sep 2012 #19

tridim

(45,358 posts)
6. It's an artist's interpretation, so talk to him or her.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:25 AM
Sep 2012

Our oldest probes are only barely past the edge of our dinky solar system.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
9. A lot of people see faces in things. It's how our brains are wired....
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:55 AM
Sep 2012

...wood grain in doors is a good one. There's some that look like screaming demons.

There was a show a while back, might have been one of the new Twilight Zone episodes of a woman in an insane asylum who was in a plain room and would freak out at the sight of a pattern of any kind. She relayed her story and it went back to a night when she was seeing one of those patterns that looks like a face and it suddenly looked back. It was one thing to see them but they noticed they were being seen and they saw her and were now coming to get her.

It ended with a doctor going into her room wearing a tie that had a pattern and both of them were found dead. Torn apart and the blood spattered walls had patterns that looked like faces....

Very Lovecraftian.

mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
11. Huh? How Hot is It???? Where?
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:24 PM
Sep 2012

"Halo of Hot Gas" sounds like a description of the left-over steam in a small bathroom,
after you've finished your shower.

But that can't be a very accurate comparison, because it doesn't sound like this is
your typical gas dispersion -- random, evenly distributed, more or less uniform throughout.

If that were the case, "temperature 'a few hundred times hotter' than the surface of our
Sun" would be something we would have detected by now?

So this isn't a "cloud" of gas, it's some kind of hollow, hot bubble with nothing to
see or detect anywhere near us? Only when you got out 5 or 8 times the diameter
of the Milky Way would an acute, perspicacious observer be able to notice.... *it's
hundreds of times hotter than the sun.* (YEEOW! Ouch, Ouch, Hot, Hot.)

....It's like something that could have come from a plot line in the original, 60's Star Trek.
The bubble -- a giant balloon, globule, bladder, vesicle -- of super-hot gas (with a face
on it, that talks to Kirk?) that stands as a barrier to space travel?

mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
20. So that's a little bit like "thermal expansion?"
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:59 PM
Sep 2012

A glass bottle full of water gets colder and freezes. The bottle breaks
because the water molecules

    get
    bigger
as they get colder. If the water in the bottle is heated instead of being cooled, the molecules
    get
    smaller
-- as they speed up.

....So, with these baryons being very small already (and moving with unbelievable rapidity), even if they were several orders of magnitude hotter than our sun -- nobody would notice or care. Except for physicists. Because that "halo of gas" in the artist's rendering might as well be a "tachyon burst." For all its impact on anything like 'human reality.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyons_in_fiction



Thanks for the explanation.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,966 posts)
21. Not like that. The case of water expanding as it goes from 4 degC to zero is almost unique
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:06 PM
Sep 2012

Most substances continue to contract all the way down to being frozen.

The case of thermal baryons superheated to millions of degrees simply means they have been bombarded and hit by other particles streaming out of the galaxy. Once they are hit they bounce and fly with no loss of momentum for very long distances. Furthermore, they can be hit by larger particles and end up traveling faster than the particle that hit them. They can also be prone to fissile type of reactions and to nucleonic decay ejecting neutrons and other particles.

mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
22. Got it, thanks.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 03:18 PM
Sep 2012

The perspective that wasn't clearly outlined in the original post is that
the 'gas halo' -- with particles superheated to those unimaginably high
temperatures -- is the size and speed of the particles.

So if anyone -- anywhere in the whole Milky Way galaxy, or in either of
the two smaller, neighboring ones -- is concerned about an open container
of gasoline they may have, the answer would be, "not to worry."

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
12. This Stuff Is Interesting
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:06 PM
Sep 2012

What, for instance, makes these gasses super hot. How is the universe expanding, indeed, what is it expanding into. Does this mean it will eventually begin a contraction phase and will there eventually be another big bang. And how soon before the Milky Way begins its collison with a neighboring galaxy? All of that is enough to make one's head hurt.

 

Bainbridge Bear

(155 posts)
17. Well, it has been pretty well established that our
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:52 AM
Sep 2012

"Milky Way" galaxy will "collide" with the neighboring Andromeda galaxy in about 3-4 billion years. However, galaxies don't collide with each other in the way that objects like cars do. The distances between stars in a typical galaxy are so great that even when the collision is taking place the stars are still an average of a light year or so apart. The main changes are brought about by the gravitational effects that the two giant systems have on each other over the course of many millions of years of the interaction.
As to the "contraction" of the Universe that you speak of, it is seems less and less likely. If you want to make your head hurt think of this. Our Universe is probably a singularity. It will go on expanding and that expansion is actually accelerating until it suffers "heat death" in a trillion years. If you could come forward to that era in a time machine you would see little or no light in the sky. The stars would be too far away or burned out and the Earth would be long gone being absorbed by the Sun as it expands due to its hydrogen fuel being used up before it, too, burned out and became dark. It was comforting to think that our Universe may have the same kind of birth and death cycles as we see on Earth but it isn't so.

 

Bainbridge Bear

(155 posts)
16. There are other more localized halos of hot gas
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:27 AM
Sep 2012

the ones surrounding Rethug candidates as they spew their nonsense in this campaign.

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