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Eugene

(61,872 posts)
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:27 AM Jan 2013

Scientists identify crocodile ancestor among fossils discovered a century ago

Source: Press Association

Scientists identify crocodile ancestor among fossils discovered a century ago

Press Association
guardian.co.uk, Monday 28 January 2013 10.03 GMT

A creature resembling a hybrid dolphin and crocodile has been identified by scientists examining fossil remains discovered more than a century ago.

The new species, named Tyrannoneustes lythrodectikos, was a marine "super-predator" that lived 163m years ago. It belonged to a group of ancient crocodiles with dolphin-like features.

An amateur fossil hunter found the reptile's partial skeleton in a clay pit near Peterborough in the early 1900s. Experts have only now been able to confirm the identity of the remains, housed at the Hunterian Museum at the University of Glasgow.

The animal had pointed, serrated teeth and a large gaping jaw suited to feeding on large-bodied prey. It represents a transitional form between marine crocodiles that fed on small prey and their supersized relatives.

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Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/jan/28/scientists-crocodile-ancestor-fossils-century


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Scientists identify crocodile ancestor among fossils discovered a century ago (Original Post) Eugene Jan 2013 OP
I wonder how it was different from frogmarch Jan 2013 #1
Mosasaurs were squamata - the order containing snakes and lizards muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #2
Thanks. Apparently there is frogmarch Jan 2013 #3
They agree they're in the order Squamata; they disagree whether closer to snakes or lizards muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #4
I saw that too, after frogmarch Jan 2013 #5

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
2. Mosasaurs were squamata - the order containing snakes and lizards
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:50 PM
Jan 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosasaur

This was also earlier than the mosasaurs - they were in the Cretaceous, while this is Jurassic.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
3. Thanks. Apparently there is
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:28 PM
Jan 2013

some disagreement among scientists as to whether mosasaurs should be included in the order Squamata.

From your Wiki link - Evolutionary antecedents:


The exact phylogenetic position of the clade containing mosasaurids and their closest relatives (aigialosaurids and dolichosaurs) within Squamata remains uncertain. Some cladistic analyses recovered them as the closest relatives of snakes,[31][32]taking into account similarities in jaw and skull anatomies;[31] however, this has been disputed[33][34][35] and the morphological analysis conducted by Conrad (2008) recovered them as varanoids closely related to terrestrial monitor lizards instead.[33]


I’d like to see a scientific paper describing Tyrannoneustus lythrodectikos to see how it's been classified.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
4. They agree they're in the order Squamata; they disagree whether closer to snakes or lizards
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:21 PM
Jan 2013

There's a link to the paper for Tyrannoneustus in the Guardian article: metriorhynchid

A new phylogenetic analysis finds Tyrannoneustes to be the sister taxon to the subclade Geosaurini

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14772019.2012.704948?journalCode=tjsp20


It says it's a metriorhynchid, which belonged to Thalattosuchia, which can be seen relative to the Eusuchia, which contains all present-day crocodilians, here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodylomorpha#Phylogeny
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