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LONDON: The elusive Higgs boson may not have been discovered despite claims of it being detected last year, according to a new study.
Many calculations indicate that the particle discovered last year in the CERN particle accelerator in Switzerland was indeed the famous Higgs particle.
Physicists agree that the CERN experiments did find a new particle that had never been seen before, but according to an international research team, there is no conclusive evidence that the part ..
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shenmue
(38,506 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts).
QED
(2,747 posts)Yeah, this stuff is real and it's wonderful.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)CERN inverted reality. the particle discovered was really the planet Earth and we are all higgs-bosons.
still_one
(92,131 posts)still_one
(92,131 posts)lastlib
(23,208 posts)we sure as hell don't want the GOP in charge of sub-atomic particles.........
QED
(2,747 posts)Ted Cruz, chair of the Senate Science Subcommittee? Oh wait, it's true?
still_one
(92,131 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Remember before the Higgs claim, CERN claimed to have found that faster than light speed communication was possible, in violation of special relativity. When the data was reviewed they found an equipment error--and special relativity was correct.
Apparently, there is a tendency to jump the gun on these announcements.
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longship
(40,416 posts)Well, let's start with the so-called faster than light neutrinos. The paper that reported this basically said that the authors did not exactly believe the results but invited the physics community to help debug the issue, which they did. The errant data was the result of a dodgy fiber optic connection. That's how science works in the real world, unlike the one that the idiot media reports. That's why when these things are reported I go to the science Blogs to read what the scientists are really saying. Those who read only media sources never get the whole story.
No doubt, this Higgs story will be similar, media overreach.
Regards.
JDDavis
(725 posts)NO more Jesus appearing on toast, God now plays with the best scientific minds of the century.
SDjack
(1,448 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)You think you have found god then all of a sudden "poof" he turns out to be some kind of a quark in living Technicolor. Reminds me of Ben Hur in reverse for some reason.
xocet
(3,871 posts)However, is there further data that supports the TC hypothesis?
For the actual paper and some other background information on TC from 2007, see the following:
Phys. Rev. D 90, 035012 Published 13 August 2014
Alexander Belyaev, Matthew S. Brown, Roshan Foadi, and Mads T. Frandsen
Abstract
We consider scenarios in which the 125 GeV resonance observed at the Large Hadron Collider is a Technicolor (TC) isosinglet scalar, the TC Higgs and explore the viable parameter space of the effective Higgs boson couplings within the TC Higgs scenario using the latest LHC data. By comparison with quantum chromodynamics, we argue that the couplings of the TC Higgs to the massive weak bosons are very close to the standard model (SM) values. The couplings to photons and gluons are model-dependent, but close to the SM values in several TC theories. The couplings of the TC Higgs to SM fermions are due to interactions beyond TC, such as extended technicolor: if such interactions successfully generate mass for the SM fermions, we argue that the couplings of the latter to the TC Higgs are also SM-like. We suggest a generic parametrization of the TC Higgs interactions with SM particles that accommodates a large class of TC models, and we perform a fit of these parameters to the Higgs LHC data. The fit reveals regions of the parameter space where the form factors have an order-one absolute value at the 95% CL, in agreement with expectations in TC theories. This indicates that the discovered Higgs boson is consistent with the TC Higgs hypothesis for several TC theories.
DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1103/PhysRevD.90.035012
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http://journals.aps.org/prd/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevD.90.035012