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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 10:06 AM Jan 2015

Far Out: Astronomers Say Two Unknown Planets May Lurk Beyond Pluto

"Planet X" might actually exist — and so might "Planet Y."

At least two planets larger than Earth likely lurk in the dark depths of space far beyond Pluto, just waiting to be discovered, a new analysis of the orbits of "extreme trans-Neptunian objects" (ETNOs) suggests.

Researchers studied 13 ETNOs — frigid bodies such as the dwarf planet Sedna that cruise around the sun at great distances in elliptical paths.

Theory predicts a certain set of details for ETNO orbits, study team members said. For example, they should have a semi-major axis, or average distance from the sun, of about 150 astronomical units (AU). (1 AU is the distance from Earth to the sun — roughly 93 million miles, or 150 million kilometers.) These orbits should also have an inclination, relative to the plane of the solar system, of almost 0 degrees, among other characteristics.

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/far-out-astronomers-say-two-unknown-planets-may-lurk-beyond-n287856

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eppur_se_muova

(36,259 posts)
3. So, they're less than zero degrees ? Or a fraction of zero degrees ?
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 11:44 AM
Jan 2015

"Nearly zero" would express the idea better. "Almost" suggests "smaller in magnitude", which is impossible when comparing to zero, or "arithmetically less", meaning a negative number, which could still be sizable.

I guess scientists are pickier about such things than journalists.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
4. "Almost" shouldn't be overly alarming here
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 12:52 PM
Jan 2015

While it can certainly mean a quantity less-than, it can also mean "in the vicinity". "Near" or "approximately" would be better suited, but I'm not seeing a major offense here.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
7. I think you are reading too much into the language here
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:41 PM
Jan 2015

"almost zero" is a perfectly legitimate descriptive term. I would use it myself in similar descriptions. That would mean for example when compared to Pluto which is (if I recall correctly) approximately 20 degrees. Thus 2 degrees or even 7 degrees would easily qualify as "almost" zero.

Just say'n

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
9. How about Hel (Norse goddess of the Niflheim -- the world of ice and the afterlife)
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 07:22 AM
Jan 2015

For one and Tuoni (the Finnish equivalent to Hel) for the other.

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