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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 09:29 PM Jul 2018

Those 'Sonic Attack' Victims Are Actually Experiencing Mass Hysteria, Expert Claims

What if there never was any attack?

PETER DOCKRILL 3 JUL 2018

In 2016, US workers in Cuba were the targets of a mysterious 'sonic attack' carried out by a new, weaponised sound technology the world had never seen before. Follow-up attacks in China and elsewhere have since confirmed the arrival of this insidious, invisible threat.

But maybe, it could be possible that... nothing ever happened to them.

According to an expert on mass psychogenic illness, the strange symptoms experienced now by 26 Americans in multiple, international episodes could be the result of a contagious, mass delusion – not the hallmarks of an exotic sonic weapon for which there is no actual proof.

"I am convinced that what we're dealing with is a case of mass hysteria and mass suggestion," medical sociologist Robert Bartholomew told ABC News.

More:
https://www.sciencealert.com/sonic-attack-victims-actually-experiencing-mass-hysteria-expert-claims-psychogenic-illness-delusions-robert-bartholomew

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Those 'Sonic Attack' Victims Are Actually Experiencing Mass Hysteria, Expert Claims (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2018 OP
If he did not examine the people with the complaints, Ilsa Jul 2018 #1
Exactly! Duppers Jul 2018 #4
Still remember when Lyme Disease first started dhol82 Jul 2018 #2
BULLCRAP!!! Duppers Jul 2018 #3
Snopes: Do 'Sonic Weapons' Adequately Explain 'Health Attacks' on Diplomats in Cuba? Judi Lynn Jul 2018 #5
Are intelligent people that gullible? defacto7 Jul 2018 #6

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
1. If he did not examine the people with the complaints,
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 09:39 PM
Jul 2018

then he is full of crap, IMO. His theory may be as baseless as any other theory.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
3. BULLCRAP!!!
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 10:49 PM
Jul 2018

My husband is a PhD physicist specializing in sound and who has some medical patents on his resume. He knows how the damage can be done! I'm pleading for him to write some letters but he says they won't listen. Wish I could say more...but please know medical sociologist (a sociologist** ffs!!) Robert Bartholomew is full of shit!!

** "Medical sociology provides an analytical framework for understanding the social contexts*** of health, illness and health care."

***These sociologists do not have the medical, psychological, or physical science qualifications to make a judgement such as Robert Bartholomew did.




Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
5. Snopes: Do 'Sonic Weapons' Adequately Explain 'Health Attacks' on Diplomats in Cuba?
Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:52 PM
Jul 2018

Do ‘Sonic Weapons’ Adequately Explain ‘Health Attacks’ on Diplomats in Cuba?
Inaudible sonic weapons are an unlikely cause of the mysterious symptoms suffered by American and Canadian diplomats in Cuba.

CLAIM
An inaudible sonic weapon adequately explains the range of symptoms experienced by diplomats suffering from “health attacks” in Cuba.

ORIGIN
A mysterious international dispute that threatens the recently thawed diplomatic relationship between the United States and Cuba came to light in a 10 August 2017 story first reported by the Associated Press. The report focused on a series of seemingly related illnesses suffered by American and Canadian diplomats serving in Cuba. The original reporting included what later appeared to be speculation from unnamed United States government officials that some form of heretofore unknown sonic weapon was to blame:

In the fall of 2016, a series of U.S. diplomats began suffering unexplained losses of hearing, according to officials with knowledge of the investigation into the case. Several of the diplomats were recent arrivals at the embassy, which reopened in 2015 as part of President Barack Obama’s reestablishment of diplomatic relations with Cuba.

Some of the U.S. diplomats’ symptoms were so severe that they were forced to cancel their tours early and return to the United States, officials said. After months of investigation, U.S. officials concluded that the diplomats had been attacked with an advanced sonic weapon that operated outside the range of audible sound and had been deployed either inside or outside their residences.


The U.S. State Department later walked back claims that they specifically had concluded a sonic weapon was at play, saying through a spokesperson that “we do not know who or what is causing these incidents”. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has described the incidents as “health attacks”, and Cuba denies any involvement. As reported by the Associated Press on 18 September 2017, the range of symptoms is nonspecific and vague:


More:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/do-sonic-weapons-explain-the-health-diplomats-cuba/

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
6. Are intelligent people that gullible?
Wed Jul 4, 2018, 04:11 PM
Jul 2018

Mass hysteria huh? I know the technology is not there for a sonic weapon that is smaller than a freight train, but mass hysteria?

How about a short lived chemical attack that leaves no trace? Airborn? Poisoning of an unknown kind that affects the nervous system?

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