Science
Related: About this forumThis explains a lot about the treasonous mob
I keep wondering, What the hell is wrong with these people!
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Shared psychosiswhich is also called folie à millions [madness for millions] when occurring at the national level or induced delusionsrefers to the infectiousness of severe symptoms that goes beyond ordinary group psychology. When a highly symptomatic individual is placed in an influential position, the persons symptoms can spread through the population through emotional bonds, heightening existing pathologies and inducing delusions, paranoia and propensity for violenceeven in previously healthy individuals. The treatment is removal of exposure.
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Interesting article.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-shared-psychosis-of-donald-trump-and-his-loyalists/
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,000 posts)Read the article.
He is not PLAIN nuts. It is a bit more complicated. Further the article makes the great point that he must be considered in an ecology of his followers and the nation.
Writing him off as just nuts sweeps the problem of his followers under the rug until a more competent autocrat comes along, and mobilizes his followers in the same way. Their problems can be exploited by somebody who does not have tRump's problems but can mimic his techniques.
He got this far because people wrote him off in 2015 as "nuts".
blm
(113,047 posts)https://www.wired.com/story/qanon-most-dangerous-multiplatform-game/?
QAnon Is Like a Gamea Most Dangerous Game
The conspiracy theory has the best attributes of a multiplatform game, except that it can cause harm in the real world.
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)The article is a good one and makes so much sense.
I don't know why, really, but Q seems so much like something Russia would do. About half way through my reading I thought how whoever rules the mind of humans will rule the world.
blm
(113,047 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 12, 2021, 10:50 AM - Edit history (1)
https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-580972548be5NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)Nitram
(22,794 posts)I've gotten stuck in video games when I encountered something I was sure was a clue, but turned out to be extraneous to the plot.
renate
(13,776 posts)It really does explain so much.
blm
(113,047 posts)There is too much at stake.
mzmolly
(50,987 posts)to DU!
Thanks for sharing.
C_U_L8R
(45,000 posts)It's the history of humankind. Trumpism deserves its own chapter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_Popular_Delusions_and_the_Madness_of_Crowds
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)Thanks for posting. And welcome to DU.
3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)Shared psychosis is something I would like to learn more about now that I know the term.
Judi Lynn
(160,525 posts)mitch96
(13,895 posts)Welcome to the clan...
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LunaSea
(2,893 posts)Helps understanding the importance of "deplatforming" as an effective treatment as we saw with ISIS online presence just a few years ago.
MyMission
(1,850 posts)Seriously. Or reprogram them? Getting rid of 45's rhetoric and social media was a small step.
Great information in this thread.
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)I suspect that if the world can function normally for awhile, the illness will ease.
I am quite certain that an honorable system of justice can provide useful consequences for over-the-top participants. But, I'm NOT confident that politicians will be held accountable. There are many who need to be shut down and held accountable. I really hope that happens!!! They are the ones with the skills to twist the truth and provide cleverly contrived arguments.
As dear leader continues to show who he really is, I think his useful idiots will gradually fade away. His job "approval rating" has fallen by 25% in a matter of days.
Those who keep lurching toward someone to believe in are the sad cases. First it was George W (the born-again former heavy drinker), now Trump (the pandering con man). Persistent followers of this type are the most conservative religious folks, like the woman who asked me during a light political discussion when George W was running for president, "Do you believe in God?" (God?) Obviously if I "believed" then I would believe along with those who believed in George W. They have such a need to believe in something (someone) less esoteric than God.
bucolic_frolic
(43,144 posts)An agent provocateur (French for "inciting agent" is a person who commits or who acts to entice another person to commit an illegal or rash act or falsely implicate them in partaking in an illegal act, so as to ruin the reputation or entice legal action against the target or a group they belong to or are perceived to belong to. They may target any group, such as a peaceful protest or demonstration, a union, a political party or a company.
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But I would argue it's the incitement that's important here. I don't see the need for those used to make violence to be the intended fall guys. It's sufficient that the agent provocateur has an objective and incites someone else to do the deed, allowing the agent provocateur to walk away relatively unscathed.
eppur_se_muova
(36,261 posts)Doc_Technical
(3,526 posts)They should be locked up in a psychiatric hospital.
The cost of doing so would be worth it.
OldBaldy1701E
(5,126 posts)The phrase "... even in formerly healthy individuals" really made me laugh.
JHB
(37,158 posts)...and Dana and Larry and Hugh and Dennis and Mark shitting into their skulls can leave people susceptible to having their heads filled with horseshit.
MN2theMax
(1,415 posts)But your explanation seems pretty damn logical to me. Bring back the Fairness Doctrine!
wnylib
(21,433 posts)would beex the Salem witch trials, the French Revolution, the Nazi era in Germany, the Peasants' Revolt in Germany, the peasant uprising in England.
In some of those examples, the people had legitimate gripes, but were fired up into mob behavior and shared dekusions by people who led them.
paulkienitz
(1,296 posts)Shared delusion is their excuse, not their reason. They believe his transparent lies not because they're hypnotized by some radiating force of crazy, but because of motivated reasoning and selective awareness that supports their already hateful and antidemocratic desires.
love_katz
(2,579 posts)Exactly. Agolf Twitler's rhetoric gives them the excuses that they want to express the hateful ideas that they believe and permission for the vile acts of violence that they want to commit.
Crowman2009
(2,494 posts)There have been studies on the amount of lead exposure at these facilities.