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Sat Jun 12, 2021, 12:24 PM Jun 2021

828 Underground Nuclear Tests, Plutonium Migration in Nevada, Dunning, Kruger, Strawmen, and Tunnels

Last edited Sat Jun 12, 2021, 01:50 PM - Edit history (1)

This is a very long post, probably not one worth reading, but it was fun to write, as in writing it, I reviewed some familiar concepts deepening my understanding and, as always, learned many new things as well, and came to some new ideas. As such, for what it's worth, I've decided to post it, as desultory and as sloppy as it is.

One of the papers I'll discuss in this post is this one: Plutonium Desorption from Nuclear Melt Glass-Derived Colloids and Implications for Migration at the Nevada National Security Site, USA (Claudia Joseph, Enrica Balboni, Teresa Baumer, Kerri Treinen, Annie B. Kersting, and Mavrik Zavarin Environmental Science & Technology 2019 53 (21), 12238-12246)

“Nevada National Security Site” is a marketing euphemistic rebranding of the nuclear weapons testing area previously known as the Nevada Test Site (NTS), and before that as the Nevada Proving Grounds. Of course the rebranding is a little absurd, since the reason for testing so many nuclear weapons there was insecurity, not security, deriving the fear that the former Soviets would have more and better nuclear weapons than “we” do, so an improved name for the site would be “Nevada National Insecurity Site.”

Anyway.

From the introductory text from the paper cited at the outset:

Between 1951 and 1992, 828 underground nuclear tests were conducted at the Nevada National Security Site (NNSS), leaving behind a subsurface deposit of radionuclides consisting of tritium, fission products, activation products, and actinides.(1) Among the radionuclides deposited in the subsurface, plutonium (Pu) represents the most abundant anthropogenic element by mass (2.8 metric tons or 3.1 × 104 TBq).(1?3) In 1999, Kersting et al.(4) detected low levels of Pu in groundwater samples collected 1.3 km downgradient from an underground nuclear test at the NNSS and determined that the Pu is associated with the colloids, composed primarily of clays and zeolite minerals. Additional groundwater samples from contaminated wells at the NNSS show a similar result with over 90% of the Pu associated with the inorganic colloids consisting of clays and zeolites.(5) Since that time, other studies have also shown Pu transport associated with both the inorganic and organic colloids.(6?11)

At the NNSS, the majority of the nuclear tests were conducted underground in silicic volcanic rocks of rhyolitic composition (75% SiO2 and 15% Al2O3), with approximately 30% conducted below the water table.(1) The high temperatures and pressures achieved during an underground nuclear explosion vaporize and melt the surrounding rock.(12) During this process, the overwhelming majority of the refractory radionuclides, including Pu, are incorporated into the melted rock,(13,14) also referred to as nuclear melt glass, which pools at the bottom of the test cavity.(12,15) The initial groundwater temperatures and temperature histories in test cavities vary substantially. The Cambric nuclear test likely returned to ambient temperatures within 10 years,(16) while other tests, such as Almendro, recorded a downhole temperature of 157 °C, 23 years after detonation.(17) Plutonium, as well as other radionuclides (e.g., 137Cs), will be released from the nuclear melt glass by dissolution during contact with groundwater.(18) Previous studies(19,20) have shown that hydrothermal alteration of rhyolitic glasses of similar composition to those found at the NNSS leads to the formation of clay (e.g., smectite/montmorillonite) and zeolite (e.g., clinoptilolite-heulandite, analcime)(4,21) secondary minerals, a fraction of which may be found in the form of colloids. Colloids, defined as particles ranging in size from 1 to 1000 nm, have low settling velocities and can remain suspended in solution for long periods of time.(22,23) At the NNSS, the presence of fractured volcanic rock, high flow rates, and low-ionic-strength groundwater enhance colloid stability and potential migration.(4,8,24,25) Although colloid-facilitated transport has been recognized as the primary cause of Pu downgradient migration at this site,(4) the stability of Pu on these colloids has yet to be determined, limiting the conceptual understanding of the long-term migration potential of Pu at the NNSS.


It is interesting to note the energy value of this 2.8 metric tons of plutonium is, were it subjected to fission in a nuclear reactor.

It can be shown, by appeal to databases, for example at the Brookhaven National Laboratory, that the fission of a single atom of plutonium-239 yields about 199 MeV of energy, ignoring neutrinos which represent energy which is not recoverable. With some simple calculations, this translates to about 80.3 trillion joules per kg of plutonium. Thus the energy associated with the plutonium melted into glass at the Nevada National (In)security Site is about 0.22 exajoules of energy, or about, roughly 0.2% of all the energy consumed in the United States each year, that being roughly 107 exajoules per year, last time I looked.

In other terms, familiar to old people like me, it is equivalent to about 37 million barrels of oil, or about 1.9 billion gallons. (For comparison, the Exxon Valdez oil spill which destroyed for a time, much of the ecosystem of Prince William Sound, spilled about 260,000 barrels of oil.) The Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill in 2010 amounted to 4.9 million barrels of crude oil. I use these oil/gasoline equivalents to make clear how this might look as an uncontrolled oil or gasoline spill. Of course, more or less, this plutonium is an uncontrolled, albeit deliberate release into the subterranean environment. Thus it is the same situation with crude oil until it is deliberately brought to the surface, where it is literally choking the planetary atmosphere, and for that matter the hydrosphere, to death. Napalm, is of course, gasoline gelled with the addition palmitic acid which is sometimes transformed into the "renewable" diesel fuel biodiesel. As napalm is a weapon of mass destruction which has easily killed more people than Hiroshima and Nakasaki did in the only nuclear war ever observed, it is clear that crude oil and its refined product, gasoline, represent a proliferation risk. Thus the Nevada National (In)security site, might be matched if the US Airforce has bombed the Nellis Airforce Base with so much Napalm as to leave behind 37 million barrels of gasoline unconsumed. When prepared for commercial processes, in dangerous fossil fuel accidents, (that vanish quickly down the memory hole) crude oil and gasoline, of course, spread rapidly when released into the environment, but the question in this post is "how rapidly does plutonium spread?"

Some time ago, I indicated in this space what the bare sphere critical mass of various plutonium isotopes is: Bare Metal Critical Masses of Commonly Available Plutonium Isotopes. (I just edited it to restore broken graphics links.)

Here, for convenience one of the two tables from the paper discussed in that post:



In this table, BCM refers to "Bare (Metal) Critical Mass" and SFN refers to "Spontaneous Fission Neutrons."

Around two billion years ago, because uranium-235 - which has a shorter half life than the dominant uranium isotope, U238 - represented a larger fraction of the mass of uranium ores. In fact, all of the uranium ores on Earth at that time were "SEU," slightly enriched uranium, which is used in many modern nuclear reactors, where only a slight enrichment in necessary in the presence of a moderator, with rare exceptions water, or heavy water, for a reactor to go critical. The evolution of oxygen in the Earth's atmosphere allowed uranium to flow and precipitate in various systems so that at a place called "Oklo" in modern day Gabon, natural nuclear reactors went critical, operating in a cyclical fashion for a few hundred thousand of years. Here is just one of many papers discussing this interesting event:

Fission product retention in the Oklo natural fission reactors (David Curtis, Timothy Benjamin, Alexander Gancarz, Robert Loss, Kevin Rosman, John DeLaeter, James E. Delmore, William J. Maeck, Applied Geochemistry, Volume 4, Issue 1, 1989, Pages 49-62)

Although critical masses are very different for oxides than they are for metals, and very different in the presence or absence of water - the cyclical nature of the Oklo reactors was tied to the fact that the water that moderated neutrons and started the reactors boiled, shutting them down until they cooled enough to resume criticality - one may wonder, naively at least, whether it is possible for similar reactors to form at the Nevada National (In)security Site. This, in turn, will depend on the ability of plutonium to migrate as uranium did billions of years ago.

Don't worry; be happy. (I think it very, very, very, very unlikely.)

In situ plutonium was generated at the natural Oklo reactors just as it is in modern anthropogenic nuclear reactors, whether the reactors are constructed for warlike purposes (where the plutonium production is for the more environmentally impactful weapons grade material which must be synthesized in low concentrations in the fuel) or for saving lives from air pollution in commercial reactors. At Oklo, the evidence is that the plutonium was retained in apatite, a mineral also found in synthetic bone and as a result did not migrate very far: Isotopic evidence for trapped fissiogenic REE and nucleogenic Pu in apatite and Pb evolution at the Oklo natural reactor (Kenji Horie, Hiroshi Hidaka, François Gauthier-Lafaye Geochimica et Cosmochimica Acta, Volume 68, Issue 1, 2004, Pages 115-125).

A fairly sophisticated reactor physics analysis of the Oklo natural reactors may be found here: Criticality of the reaction zone 9 of Oklo reactors revisited (K. Mohamed Cherif, A. Seghour, F.Z. Dehimi, Applied Radiation and Isotopes, Volume 149, 2019, )Pages 165-173)

A similar discussion may be found here: R.T. Ibekwe, C.M. Cooling, A.J. Trainer, M.D. Eaton, Modeling the short-term and long-term behaviour of the Oklo natural nuclear reactor phenomenon, Progress in Nuclear Energy, Volume 118, 2020.

Weapons grade plutonium is mostly 239Pu, and generally has less than 5% 240Pu as I understand it, but during a nuclear explosion, in which a very high neutron flux is observed, because not every plutonium atom fissions when struck by a neutron - some are absorbed according to an important parameter in nuclear engineering, the capture to fission ratio – some of the 239Pu in a nuclear explosion is converted into 240Pu, which is more radioactive than 239Pu because it has a shorter half-life.

Many discussions of radioactivity use the unit "Bequerel," named after the discoverer of radioactivity, Henri Bequerel, which is often abbreviated Bq (and, more rarely, "Beq" ) ; the Bequerel represents the decay of a single atom. The issue of single atom decays in this post will come up later, when I turn to the Dunning Kruger effect and Strawmen listed in the title of this post. Sometimes one will see a fractional "Bequerel" which should be interpreted by taking the inverse of the number and finding the average number of seconds required before a decay is observed. Another unit of radioactivity is the "Curie," usually abbrevieated "Ci." Historically it was taken as the number of decays observed per second in 1 gram of radium. It has been updated to mean 3.7 X 10^(10) Beq, 37 billion decays per second, exactly.

Thus knowing the mass of plutonium in some setting is not sufficient to describe how radioactive it is. For example, here is part of a graphic (part b) from a 1999 paper on the topic of plutonium migration where one of the authors Anie B. Kersting, who is an authority on Plutonium migration and who definitely knows more about the topic than say, Bonnie Raitt (see below):



The caption:

... b, Comparison of the 240 Pu/239 Pu isotope ratios of different samples in this study normalized to the radioactivity measured in ER-20-5 no. 1. Precision is ±1.5%. The errors plotted are smaller than the symbols used. Results of the Pu isotopic analyses of the archived melt glass material collected from the cavity region immediately after the detonation of Benham and Tybo from both laboratories agree to within 1.5% and also match the original values measured immediately following the nuclear tests. Total laboratory procedural blanks had Total laboratory procedural blanks had less than 2?pg Pu, significantly below the concentrations analysed and did not contribute to the isotope ratio measured. The concentrations of Pu detected in the soil samples were extremely low ( less than 4?pg Pu per g sample), and the isotopic ratios distinctly different from the ground water. Values plotted are averages: ER-20-5 no 1, N = 3; ER-20-5 no. 3, N = 2; Colloids, N = 4; Tybo, N = 6; Benham, N = 12; Molbo, N = 7; Belmont, N = 4; and soil, N = 2. Here N is the number of samples averaged.


Source: Kersting, A., Efurd, D., Finnegan, D. et al. Migration of plutonium in ground water at the Nevada Test Site. Nature 397, 56–59 (1999).

Tybo, Benham, Molbo, and Belmont are all code names for underground nuclear tests conducted by the United States government in Nevada.

Here, from the paper just cited, is a map of where the underground nuclear tests were conducted, as well as some cartoons diagramming the conditions under which the two tests in question were conducted.



The caption:

a, Map of the Nevada Test Site, showing the locations of all detonated underground nuclear tests. An enlarged map of the field area in Pahute Mesa is also shown, giving the location of the well cluster ER-20-5 and all other nearby underground nuclear tests. Molbo (1982) and Belmont (1986) have an announced yield between 20 and 150?kt. b, A–A? is a north-south cross-section projecting the Benham and Tybo nuclear tests relative to the ER-20-5 well cluster. Well no. 3 is located ?30?m south of well no. 1. The Tybo test was detonated in moderately welded tuff on 14 May 1975 at a depth of 765?m and had an announced yield between 200 and 1,000?kt. Benham was denotated in zholitized bedded tuff on 19 December 1968 at a depth of 1,402?m with a nuclear yield of 1,150?kt. The working point (WP) denotes the location of the nuclear device before detonation. The radius of the cavity is a function of the nuclear yield, density of the rock type and depth of burial (distance from ground surface to WP)31. Benham has a calculated cavity radius of 98?m, and Tybo between 62 and 105?m based on the unclassified range in yield.


We will return below to the measurements reported in this 1999 paper, and compare them with results from other measurements of plutonium in ground water reported in 2020.

Here is a 2002 government report detailing some information about Tybo and Benham, also the topic of Dr. Kersting's 1999 paper: TYBO/BENHAM: Model Analysis of Groundwater Flow and Radionuclide Migration from Underground Nuclear Tests in Southwestern Pahute Mesa, Nevada

The text indicates that the inventory of residual plutonium in the Benham test is 1.5 moles of Pu240 and 17.1 moles of Pu239 in the glasses lining the nuclear test cavities. The molar ratio between the two isotopes is 8% Pu240, and 92% Pu239, where as the percentage of the observed radioactive decays for the two isotopes is 24% from Pu-240 and 76% from Pu-239. It is very difficult to imagine that the technology exists to isolate this residual plutonium from the Nevada National (In)security Site, but were it possible to do so, and were the composition of plutonium similar to that of the Benham test, it would be less than ideal for use in a nuclear weapon, workable perhaps, but very difficult to assemble because of the high neutron flux from Pu240 spontaneous fission.

This is a reason, by the way, why isolation of plutonium for the assembly of nuclear weapons involves the production of considerably more so called "nuclear waste" than is the case for the reprocessing commercial used nuclear fuels: To prevent the accumulation of Pu240, which tends to make nuclear weapons "fizzle" the fuel rods from the nuclear reactor must be removed after short irradiation times, when the plutonium in the fuel rods is still very dilute, and therefore more problematic to isolate.

I will now turn to a paper Dr. Kersting wrote (as the sole author) surveying migration of plutonium at several major sites where it is not in an engineered environment, that is, where it represents an environmental contaminant located without consideration of long term exposure. That paper is here: Plutonium Transport in the Environment (Annie B. Kersting, Inorganic Chemistry 2013 52 (7), 3533-3546)

Before turning to some of the graphics in the paper, it is useful to take a look at the degree of contamination at each of four nuclear weapons production sites discussed in the paper. (I emphasize that these are weapons sites, because, being poorly educated, unable to make distinctions, ignorant of historical context, indifferent to the observed - and growing death toll resulting from not using using nuclear power more broadly - anti-nukes love to call up reference to say, Hanford, and point to it, as if it is relevant to my position on nuclear power, sometimes with truly awesome levels of stupidity and selective attention: See below.) The weapons production sites, besides the aforementioned Hanford site and the Nevada National (In)security Site, are the Rocky Flats Site in Colorado, and the Soviet Era Mayak Site in the Modern Day Russian Federation.

To wit:

The Nevada National (In)security Site:

Pu Transport at the Nevada Test Site (NTS)

The former NTS, currently called the Nevada National Security Site, was the location of 828 underground and 100 atmospheric nuclear tests conducted between 1956 and 1992 as part of the U.S. nuclear testing program.(94) Approximately 4.8 × 1018 Bq (1.3 × 108 Ci, decay corrected to 1992) of radioactivity remains in the subsurface, consisting of fission products, activation products, actinides, and tritium.(94, 95) Approximately 3.1 × 1016 Bq (8.3 × 105 Ci) of radioactivity comes from Pu.(94) Greater than 95% of the residual Pu and other refractory radionuclides are sequestered in the melt glass that coalesces at the bottom of the cavity.(96, 40) As the glass alters, radionuclides are released and are potentially available for transport. For more information on the phenomenology of underground nuclear tests, see work by Kersting and Zavarin and references cited therein.(40)
The NTS is located in an arid desert environment with the majority of the nuclear tests detonated in alluvium or rhyolitic volcanic rock. Approximately one-third of the underground nuclear tests were detonated below the groundwater table, in rhyolitic tuff. The groundwater is deep, roughly more than 250 m bgs, and is predominantly sodium bicarbonate, low ionic strength, and low organic carbon with a pH of ?8.(97, 98) In the regions where groundwater flows through fractured volcanic rock, flow rates have been measured up to 80 m/year, whereas in the alluvial basins, groundwater flow rates are much slower, as low as 0.3 m/year.(99)


Rocky Flats:

The Rocky Flats Nuclear Weapons Plant (currently the Rocky Flats Environmental Technology Site) was established in 1951. From 1952 to 1989, the plant produced more than 100 t of Pu to manufacture U and Pu components for nuclear weapons.(102) The plant was shut down in 1989, leaving behind a legacy of Pu- and U-contaminated surface water, shallow groundwater, and soil. From 1958 to 1968, leakage of drums that contained Pu-contaminated waste oil in the 903 Pad Storage Area led to releases of Pu to the environment. Contaminated soil was subsequently transported by wind, affecting a much larger area of Rocky Flats than the original 903 Pad Storage. Analysis of the colloidal fraction of the soil by extended X-ray absorption near-edge spectroscopy showed that Pu was in the highly insoluble species PuO2.(103, 104)

Rocky Flats is located in the semiarid grasslands on the high plains of Colorado at the eastern edge of the Rocky Mountains. There are two distinct groundwater regimes at Rocky Flats. There is a deep groundwater, about 200–300 m bgs, which is isolated from the shallow groundwater. The shallow groundwater and surface water are inextricably linked because stream channels recharge the shallow groundwater while seeps discharge shallow groundwater to the surface.(102) The shallow groundwater has a pH that ranges between 7.5 and 9.9 and a DOM concentration between 3.6 and 14.0 mg of C/L. Concentrations of Pu in the surface waters ranged from 7.8 × 10^(–3) to 2.2 × 10^(–3 )Bq/L (from 0.21 to 0.06 pCi/L).(23)


The radioactivity described in the surface waters near Rocky Flats is not very impressive, although they surely would excite most anti-nukes into paroxysms of stupidity. 7.8 X10^-3 Bq means that one would need to wait more than two minutes (128 seconds) to observe a single nuclear decay of a single atom of plutonium in the water. One of the more abysmally stupid things that anti-nukes say is that "there is no safe level of radioactivity." This ignores the fact that potassium is an essential element, without which all life, including human life, would not exist on this planet, and that all of the potassium on earth - without extensive and hardly ever practiced laboratory processing - is radioactive, owing to the natural presence of potassium-40, (K-40) which has a half-life of 1.227 billion years. It is also worth noting therefore that when life evolved, potassium was more than twice as radioactive as it is now; life has always been bathed in radiation. A 70 kg human being contains about 140 grams of potassium (cf: Emsley, John, The Elements, 3rd ed., Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1998.) It is straight forward to calculate that the radioactivity associated with this potassium, given the isotopic fraction of K-40 in potassium, and its half-life. It works out to 4,250 Bq per body. Seawater, considering only it's potassium content and not the significant quantities of uranium and uranium decay daughters it contains, is more radioactive than Rocky Flats water, 1.29 X 10^(-2) Beq/liter.

Before being banned at Daily Kos for making a true statement, that statement being - I paraphrase - that "opposing nuclear energy is simply murder," I walked through some related calculations in a "diary" over there to show that the total radioactivity of seawater from potassium alone is about 2 X 10^22 or 530 billion curies: How Radioactive Is the Ocean? In the last 300,000 years, a fair portion of the existence of homo sapiens, the fraction of potassium-40 that has decayed is 0.000163. The sea has always been radioactive and always will be radioactive, and, without ending all life on Earth, nothing can be done about it. Of course, it is something of a quixotic enterprise to explain science to a journalist, in general, and the owner of Daily Kos is just that, a journalist, one on our side perhaps, in terms of supporting and electing Democrats, but completely ignorant of issues in Energy and the Environment.

Mayak:

Pu Transport at the Mayak Production Association, Russia

The Mayak Production Association, located near the southern Ural Mountains in Russia, was built in 1948 to produce Pu for nuclear weapons. It consisted of five nuclear reactors and a reprocessing plant. The Mayak region has been severely contaminated due to both routine and accidental releases of radioactivity.(106) From 1949 to 1956, approximately 106 PBq (2.9 × 10^6 Ci) of nuclear liquid waste was intentionally discharged into the Techa River. Some of the more mobile radionuclides, such as 90Sr, have been detected more than 2000 km downstream.(106)

Starting around 1951, waste effluent was discharged into nearby Lake Karachai. This lake, which has no outlets, was originally an upland marsh with high organic content.(107) It is underlain by fractured andesitic to basaltic metavolcanics. The discharge waste effluents were weakly alkaline NaNO3 brine solutions with a pH between 7.9 and 9.3. Approximately 4440 PBq (1.2 × 10^8 Ci) of nuclear waste effluent containing 90Sr, 137Cs, 239Pu, and 241Am was discharged into Lake Karachai.(106) Concentrations of Pu in the waste effluent at Lake Karachai were approximately 1000 Bq/L (2.7 × 10^4 pCi/L). The Pu concentrations measured in groundwater collected from downgradient wells were 4.8 Bq/L at 0.5 km and 0.029 Bq/L (7.8 × 10^(–1) pCi/L) at 4.0 km distance.(25)

Novikov and co-workers showed that greater than 90% of the Pu detected 4 km from Lake Karachai was associated with the colloidal fraction of groundwater. They were also able to show that the Pu was associated with iron oxyhydroxide colloids. Particle-size analysis of these colloids demonstrated that between 70 and 90% of the Pu detected in the colloidal fraction was associated with the smallest size 3–10 kD filter (?1–15 nm). In the near field, the concentration of Pu both at Lake Karachai and in groundwater samples from the nearest wells exceeds the solubility of PuO2+x (s,hyd), favoring the formation of intrinsic Pu colloids. Understanding the processes controlling Pu transport from complex initial source chemistry to more than 4 km downgradient has yet to be fully determined 108) nevertheless, it is clear that the extraordinarily high levels of radioactivity released over a period of decades has resulted in one of the most contaminated environmental sites in the world. Within this environment, Pu along with other radionuclides has been transported with inorganic iron colloids significant distances through the fractured metavolcanic subsurface geology.



Hanford:

Pu Transport at the Hanford Site

The Hanford Site was established in 1943 as part of the U.S. weapons program to produce Pu for nuclear weapons. Located in the semiarid, south-central Washington State, the Hanford Site is located on a sequence of unconsolidated fluvial and lacustrine deposits (sand, gravel, and silt) approximately 30–122 m thick. The sediments overlie the Columbia River basalt, and the water table is variable but estimated between 230 and 270 m bgs in the central areas.(109)

The Hanford Site produced about 67 t of Pu for use in nuclear weapons and was the site of the first (sic) nuclear reactor.(110) Separating Pu produced from the reactors and reprocessing the waste resulted in the discharge of large quantities of Pu and other actinides to the shallow subsurface.(111) Releases of radionuclides and hazardous chemicals occurred in a variety of different forms: solid waste in unlined and lined trenches, liquid waste in shallowly buried tanks, and accidental surface releases. The chemical composition of the waste was highly variable with extremes in the pH, salinity, radionuclide composition, and concentration. Approximately 2.4 × 10^8–0.8 × 10^8 GBq (6.5 × 106–0.22 × 10^6 Ci) of high-level waste was discharged to the vadose zone from planned and unplanned releases and leaking tanks, and of this, approximately 4.4 × 10^(5) GBq (1.2 × 10^4 Ci) of 239Pu was disposed of as liquid waste in the near surface.(111, 112) Pu was discharged to the shallow subsurface in over 80 separate locations, although the vast majority of the transuranics was disposed of in the central plateau (200 Area).


It is useful to translate the units of radioactivity used here, GBq (Gigabequerel) into mass. (Note that almost all of the plutonium at Hanford is, in fact, weapons grade plutonium, since that was what the site was constructed to make.) Using the standard nuclear decay formulae, which should be familiar to a good high school student, one can show that the specific activity of plutonium-239 is 2.29 X 10^(12) Beq/kg, or 2.29 TBq (Terabequerel/kg.) If follows that there is about 192 kg of weapons grade plutonium spread around the Hanford site in various places.

An important point at Hanford and Mayak, as opposed to Rocky Flats, to be discussed immediately below, and the Nevada National (In)security Site is that at the two former sites, the chemical form of the plutonium is varied, in some cases acidic, which can change the mobility.

A fairly comprehensive report on plutonium, americium, and neptunium contamination at Hanford is referenced by Dr. Kersting, a report, PNNL-18640, (Cantrell, 2009) which is available for free on line. A unit utilized in the report in many places is the pCi, the "picoCurie," which is equal to 0.037 Bq, implying that to observe one pCi, on average, one must wait a little under 30 seconds to observe the decay of a single atom. The report. A cubic meter of seawater will on average contain about 350,000 pCi of potassium-40. The conclusions of the report include the following remarks:

It is estimated that over 11,800 Ci of plutonium-239, 28,700 Ci of americium-241, and 55 Ci of neptunium-237 have been disposed as liquid waste to the near-surface environment at the Hanford Site. Despite the very large quantities of transuranic contaminants disposed to the vadose zone at Hanford, only minuscule amounts have entered the groundwater. Currently, no wells onsite exceed the DOE-derived concentration guide for plutonium-239/240 (30 pCi/L) or any other transuranic contaminant in filtered samples. The DOE-derived concentration guide was exceeded by a small fraction in unfiltered samples from one well (299-E28-23) in recent years (35.4 and 40.4 pCi/L in FY 2006).

The primary reason that disposal of these large quantities of transuranic radionuclides directly to the vadose zone at the Hanford Site has not resulted in widespread groundwater contamination is that under the typical oxidizing and neutral to slightly alkaline pH conditions of the Hanford vadose zone, transuranic radionuclides (plutonium and americium in particular) have a very low solubility and high affinity for surface adsorption to mineral surfaces common within the Hanford vadose zone. Other important factors are the fact that the vadose zone is typically very thick (hundreds of feet) and the net infiltration rate is very low due to the desert climate.

In some cases where transuranic radionuclides have been co-disposed with acidic liquid waste, transport through the vadose zone for considerable distances has occurred. For example, at the 216-Z-9 Crib, plutonium-239 and americium-241 have moved to depths in excess of 36 m (118 ft) bgs. Acidic conditions and the presence of possible complexants could increase the solubility of these contaminants and reduce adsorption to mineral surfaces. Subsequent neutralization of the acidity by naturally occurring calcite in the vadose zone (particularly in the Cold Creek unit) appears to have effectively stopped further migration.


Anyway.

Often, when people come to me to display their intellectual laziness and/or ignorance by complaining about so called "nuclear waste," they often pull arbitrary numbers out of their hat about "how long" it's supposed to stay "dangerous." One hears numbers like "billions of years" (which is how long potassium and uranium and thorium all of which were on the planet when it formed are radioactive), or "millions of years" and sometimes "thousands of years," as if the carbon dioxide, mercury, and lead from dangerous fossil fuels disappear in minutes, even though their environmental lifetimes are essentially eternal.

In connection with the 2.8 tons of plutonium at the Nevada National (In)security Site it is useful for the purposes of this "too long to read" post what the decay timelines for the plutonium will be at the site.

In the Inorganic Chemistry 2013 paper, Dr. Kersting provides a kind of graphic one sees in many contexts connected with the management of so called "nuclear waste," a comparison between radiotoxicity (by various means of biological transport) associated with the constituents of used nuclear fuels (or in this case weapons manufacture and/or nuclear testing) in comparison with that associated with natural uranium ores. It is important to note however, since Dr. Kersting is a geochemist concerned with the behavior of actinides and fission products in the environment, specifically in geological structures, she is primarily concerned with buried plutonium. Here it is:



The caption:

Relative radiotoxicity on inhalation of spent nuclear fuel with a burnup of 38 megawatt days/kg U. The radiotoxicity values are relative to the radiotoxicity (horizontal line) of the quantity of uranium ore that was originally mined to produce the fuel (eight tons of natural uranium yields one ton of enriched uranium, 3.5% 235U)


This graphic is reproduced from an original document here: Nuclear waste forms for actinides (Ewing, PNAS March 30, 1999 96 (7) 3432-3439)

Of course, the only "waste form" at the Nevada National (In)security Site, is glass formed from the heat of the explosion of a nuclear weapon underground. Below we'll consider how mobile this plutonium is. However, it is next to impossible to directly recover it in any way.

Using simple nuclear decay laws, the atomic weights of the two isotopes and the data discussed above for just one of the 828 underground nuclear explosions in Nevada, the Benham explosion, I have prepared the following table.



Although anti-nukes are prone to deny it, because they are most often discussing topics about which they know nothing, however, the situation is very different at weapons sites as opposed to commercial nuclear reprocessing sites. The recovery of the transuranium actinides using a wide variety of processes is well understood, and all of them, not just plutonium but also neptunium, americium, and curium are potential nuclear fuels. I therefore always argue that it is just stupid to bury them, as they are vital resources in a time of climate change and massive rising air pollution death rates.

The following figure shows the very different case obtained if one separates the uranium, plutonium and minor actinides (neptunium, americium and curium) and fissions them, whereupon the reduction of radioactivity to a level that is actually below that of the original uranium in a little over 300 years:



The caption:

Fig. 4. – Radiotoxicity (log-scale, unit: Sv/tSM) of 1 t of heavy metal (SM) from a pressurized water reactor (initial enrichment 4.2% U-235, burn-up 50 GWd/t) with regard to ingestion as a function of time (log-scale, unit: years) after discharge. Left-hand frame: contribution of fission products (FP), plutonium (Pu) and minor actinides (MA) to radiotoxicity. Right-hand frame: Modification of radiotoxicity due to separation of U, Pu or U, Pu, MA. The reference value is the radiotoxicity of the amount of natural uranium that was used to produce 1 t of nuclear fuel. Source: [17].


(Hartwig Freiesleben, The European Physical Journal Conferences · June 2013)

Source 17, in German, is this one: Reduzierung der Radiotoxizität abgebrannter Kernbrennstoffe durch Abtrennung und Transmutation von Actiniden: Partitioning. Reducing spent nuclear fuel radiotoxicity by actinide separation and transmutation: partitioning.

It is important to note that simply because a material is radioactive does not imply that it is not useful, perhaps even capable of accomplishing tasks that nothing else can do as well or as sustainably. Given the level of chemical pollution of the air, water and land, in fact, the use of radiation, in particular high energy radiation, gamma rays, x-rays, and ultra UV radiation may prove to be more important than ever, but that's a topic for another time.

To return to the topic at hand, plutonium - which I regard as an essential element for a sustainable world - plutonium dioxide, plutonium form found very commonly in the environment, is an extremely insoluble compound. The concentration of plutonium in water over the oxide has been calculated to be 3 X 10^(-17) M. (cf. Haschke, Thermodynamics of water sorption on PuO2: Consequences for oxide storage and solubility (Journal of Nuclear Materials, Volume 344, Issues 1–3, 1 September 2005, Pages 8-12) One can back calculate what this represents in terms of radioactive decay, in units of Bq, again using the mass of 239Pu, the decay constant and Avagadro's number to see that this represents 1.65 X 10^(-5) Bq, meaning that if one were observing a liter of water saturated with PuO2, one would need to wait nearly 17 hours on average to observe even a single atom of plutonium decaying in the saturated water. This is way less radioactive than the natural radioactivity of seawater or, for that matter, human flesh.

But perhaps I'm being a little too glib here, since the paper cited at the outset of this post, co-authored by Dr. Kersting, who is way smarter than I am, contains the word migration, does it not?

It turns out that there are other mechanisms for the transport of plutonium, and Dr. Kersting summarizes them quite well in her 2013 Inorganic Chemistry paper. The mechanism is transport on colloids. It is therefore useful to look a some pictures from Dr. Kersting's 2013 paper beyond that posted above:





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Figure 2. Cartoon depicting contaminant transport in two- and three-phase systems: (A) Contaminant transport in a two-phase system. Dark-blue circles are dissolved species (mobile), and larger light-blue circles are sorbed to the host rock (immobile). (B) Contaminant transport in a three-phase system. Contaminants that are sorbed to the host rock can also attach to the mobile colloid and migrate with groundwater. Modified from a figure appearing in ref 119. As shown, in a two-phase system, only the dissolved contaminant is transported in groundwater, whereas in a three-phase system, the low-solubility, strongly sorbing contaminant can sorb to a colloid and migrate.




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Figure 3. Size distribution of different types of environmental dissolved species, organic and inorganic colloids, macromolecules, and particles. Modified from a figure appearing in ref 33.




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Figure 4. Eh–pH diagram of Pu calculated for a NaHCO3 solution in equilibrium with 10–3.4 bar of CO2 at 25 °C. Thermodynamic data used to generate the diagram are from Guillaumont and colleagues.(120) The dashed black line represents the range of common natural waters, which include multiple oxidation states of Pu. Diagram from a personal communication by M. Zavarin.


Another term for "Eh–pH diagram" is "Pourbaix diagram." This Pourbaix diagram reflects the very complex and extremely interesting redox chemistry of plutonium. Even were it not an element that will surely prove critical to saving humanity from itself, assuming that humanity does save itself, plutonium would be, and is, of extreme academic interest, being one of the very rare metals that can simultaneously exist at equilibrium in three oxidation states simultaneously. Just as the presence of oxygen in the planetary atmosphere plays a role in the fact that the oceans contain approximately 4.5 billion tons of uranium in equilibrium with the planetary mantle - the evolution of oxygen accounts for the events at Oklo - the varied oxidation states of plutonium can play a role in its solubility, at least under some circumstances, for example transport to colloid particles, although it's not clear that this is, in fact, how plutonium bearing colloids are formed.

More about the colloids:



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Figure 5. TEM images of intrinsic Pu nanocolloids. (A) Low-magnification bright-field TEM image of a cluster of nanocolloids on a carbon film. (B) HRTEM image showing an individual nanocolloid structure highlighted in a white box. (C) Energy-dispersive X-ray spectrum of the Pu nanocolloids in part A. (D) Fast Fourier transform of a Pu nanocolloid from the box in part B, showing the PuO2 fcc structure. (E) Filtered image of the Pu colloid in the box in part B, showing a lattice image of PuO2 fcc nanocolloids. The electron beam is parallel to the [110] zone. Reprinted with permission from ref 89. Copyright 2011 American Chemical Society.




A real life plutonium bearing colloid from the Hanford site:

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Figure 6. NanoSIMS image of sediment grains from the B1HK15 sediment sample collected ?19.5 m bgs beneath the Z-9 crib in the 200 Area at Hanford, WA. (A) SEM image showing plagioclase feldspar grains Fe with coatings. (B) NanoSIMS elemental analysis showing Si-30, Al-27, Fe-57, and Pu-239 counts for the grains imaged. Pu is strongly correlated with the feldspar grains and other elements in the sediment grains. The Fe coating detected on the feldspar grains was also found on the majority of the grains analyzed. Data were from Kips et al.(116)


Now I would like to return to the paper cited at the very outset of this long diatribe, to wit: Kersting et al., Environmental Science & Technology 2019 53 (21), 12238-12246.

In this paper, the authors took colloids formed using real melt glass, retrieved from real underground nuclear tests and stored at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, and prepared colloidal minerals (Montmorillonite Sw-y) which make up clay, to understand their ability to transport plutonium. Since, as described in the excerpt at the beginning of this dreary post, some of the nuclear test caverns remain thermally hot, and others are cool, the extraction was performed under conditions designed to mimic the range of these observed conditions. Then they set out to see how well the plutonium transported on colloids was subject to release.

The preparations of the colloids is described in a previous paper by Dr. Kersting and her coauthors, this one: Hydrothermal Alteration of Nuclear Melt Glass, Colloid Formation, and Plutonium Mobilization at the Nevada National Security Site, U.S.A. (Mavrik Zavarin, Pihong Zhao, Claudia Joseph, James D. Begg, Mark A. Boggs, Zurong Dai, and Annie B. Kersting, Environmental Science & Technology 2019 53 (13), 7363-7370) In order to transfer plutonium from the melt glass to the colloids, the experiments were conducted over a number of years, and measured the concentration of two fission products, Eu-152 and Cs-137, plutonium (239+240), and an activation product, Co-60, presumably formed by neutron capture in the iron of the steel casings of the test bombs.


The purpose of the paper cited at the outset of this unreadably long post is described by the authors at the end of the introduction, including some comments on the nature of the samples:

In this study, we advance the work of Zavarin et al.(21) to explore the desorption rates of Pu and Cs from the 1000 day hydrothermally produced nuclear melt glass colloids. Flow cell experiments were conducted with colloid suspensions produced from hydrothermal alteration of nuclear melt glass at pH 8. Three different suspensions were used for the flow cell experiments: (a) colloidal material from hydrothermal alteration of nuclear melt glass at 140 °C (140-Coll), (b) colloidal material from hydrothermal alteration of nuclear melt glass at 200 °C (200-Coll), and (c) 238Pu sorbed to SWy-1 montmorillonite for ?8 months at room temperature (SWy). The objective of this work is to advance the understanding of (1) the underlying mechanism(s) controlling Pu behavior during hydrothermal alteration of nuclear melt glass and (2) the fate of Pu colloid-facilitated transport at environmentally relevant time scales (10s–100s years).


The authors then processed the colloids formed over a period of years as described in their earlier paper, and allowed water to flow over these colloids to see how much plutonium (and cesium) was released into in the process:

The conditions under which the desorption tests were conducted are shown in two tables from that paper





The "percent talk" in table 1 - which is often used misleadingly by advocates of so called "renewable energy" to conceal its failure to address climate change - looks rather frightening until one looks at absolute numbers, displayed by figure 1 from the paper:




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Figure 1. Concentration of Pu and Cs detected in the effluent reservoirs of the flow cell as a function of time: (a) Pu desorbed from SWy; 140A,B; 200A,B; (b) 137Cs desorbed from 140A,B; 200A,B (errors: 2? ).


It is useful to convert the "molar" figure into Bq, using the specific activities (calculated from the decay constant in inverse seconds, not inverse years) of the two plutonium isotopes, 239 and 240 which, according to the graphic from Dr. Kerstings 1999 Nature paper, shown above, is approximately 1:1 for the Benham and Tybo nuclear weapons tests. One can calculate that the activity of Pu-240 at 2.5 X 10^(-13) M is about 0.1 Bq for Pu-239, and about 0.5 Bq for Pu-240; carrying through some non-significant figures, it works out to one nuclear decay every 7 seconds in the former case, 1 decay every 2 seconds for the latter case.



Two other related graphics from the paper:

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Figure 2. Modeling results of 3 weeks-? compared to SWy experimental data (black squares). The light green area represents the model confidence (2? ).





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Figure 3. Modeling results of 3 weeks-? (lines) compared to 140A (a), 140B (b), 200A (c), and 200B (d). The light green area represents the model confidence (2? ).


Note that these papers refer to laboratory evaluations, and not to real world situations.

It is nevertheless interesting to compare the values herein with the EPA standards for drinking water, which for gross alpha contamination is 15 pCi/liter, which translates to 0.56 Beq/liter. It is important to ascertain what this standard means. It does not mean that if one drinks water exceeding this limit that one will immediately die, although in long experience in dealing with the mentality of anti-nukes, it would not surprise me to learn that people might so interpret it as such. If this were the case, people would be dropping like flies all over the United States.

Let's consider some real world situations. I live on the Reading Prong, a natural uranium formation, that produced a gasp of terror in the New York Times shortly before Chernobyl blew up, where the uranium is in secular equilibrium with its daughter elements, including radium-226. I have measurable Radon-222, the gaseous daughter of Ra-226 in my home on the lower level, happily below EPA recommended levels, although I have never checked my well water for Ra-226. The EPA guidance on drinking water specifically refers to this isotope, Ra-226. The EPA guidance is not a function of instantaneous death should one exceed it, rather is a function of the PDE (permissible daily exposure) and MDD (Maximum Daily Dose) and assumes that one is drinking water, and the exposure limit is very conservative 4 mrem/year. For perspective, a three hour ride in a commercial airliner exposes one to 1 mrem. I just had a CAT scan to evaluate some abdominal pain - happily it does not seem to involve cancer - and was exposed to about 2,000 mRem. Of course, the conservative drinking water standard is connected to ingested radionuclides which is different than whole body exposure, but again, we all experience internal radiation because our lives depend on having potassium in our bodies and all of the potassium on Earth is radioactive; this natural radiation amounts to about 33 mRem/year.

Following Dr. Kersting's papers on plutonium migration, the Lawrence Livimore National Laboratory published a broader survey of water at the Nevada National (In)security Site: Interpretation of Mineralogical Diagenesis for Assessment of Radionuclide Transport at Pahute Mesa, Nevada National Security Site It is open sourced; anyone can read it. (Dr. Kersting's papers are referenced in this report.) Nevertheless, for convenience I reproduce Figure 6 from the paper which compares the concentration of plutonium in test wells near nuclear test sites with the EPA gross alpha standard:



It appears that only one test well exceeds the EPA limits for drinking water, which is not to say that I recommend drinking well water from the Nevada National (In)security Site, on the other hand if one did, this data suggests the result would not be fatal.

Speaking of the "real world," while we all wait breathlessly for the grand so called "renewable energy" nirvana which has not come, is not here, and frankly, won't come, we are drilling the shit out of the North American continent, shattering rocks beneath it forever far beyond the Nevada National (In)security Site to get the last drops of oil and gas out them. The purpose of shattering the shit out of rocks, is of course, to increase their surface area. The Marcellus shale, near where I live, contains besides oil and gas, large amounts of uranium and its daughters, including radium-226 and radon-222. The rocks are shattered using high pressure water, and it happens that water extracts radium-226 and brings it to the surface in a solution of nasty things known as "flowback water," where it is dumped in a largely unregulated fashion.

A great deal has been published on the "NORM" (Naturally Occurring Radioactive Materials) in flowback water, and it is illuminating to compare the radiation levels associated with plutonium resulting from nuclear tests at the Nevada National (In)security Site with flowback water. For one example of such measurements, radiation in flowback water - there are oodles of them available for any interested party - consider this paper: Estimating Radium Activity in Shale Gas Produced Brine (Wenjia Fan, Kim F. Hayes, and Brian R. Ellis Environmental Science & Technology 2018 52 (18), 10839-10847. Three fracking sites are compared, one on the Marcellus Shale in PA, near where I live, and two in Michigan.

A graphic from that paper:



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Figure 2. Predicted Ra-226 activity as a function of potential total Ra-226 present in the shale for a given shale U content. Symbols represent produced water sample data from the Utica–Collingwood (triangle), Antrim (diamond), and Marcellus (square).


There you have it. Samples of "flowback water" dumped on the surface in Michigan and In Pennsylvania are (with a few exceptions in this graphic) are more radioactive than samples of water obtained from test wells near the sites of historical nuclear weapons tests at the Nevada National (In)security Site. After a long life, I am certainly cynical enough to understand that the very same people who wait endlessly for the so called "renewable energy" nirvana that did not come, is not here and will not come, while we frack gas and dump the waste directly in the air or on the land (in flowback water retention ponds) will carry on endlessly about say, Fukushima while not giving a rat's ass about radium in Michigan and radium in PA that has been brought to the surface because so called "renewable energy" depends on continuous access to dangerous natural gas.

As I often say, "History will not forgive us, nor should it."

Much of what I've written about radiation above with respect to radiation exposure consists of something called "facts." Some of these facts have been well know for a very long time, for example about background radiation exposure, but over the last half a century, I've heard a great number of what can only be called "conspiracy theories" about radiation exposure that center around the premise, often spouted by anti-nukes, that there is "no safe level of radioactivity" despite the obvious statement, connected with potassium that there is no safe level of not having radioactivity exposure since potassium is an essential element for all living things.

Let me move away from physical science to a quasi "social science" discussion.

Back in 2018 I had the pleasure of attending a lecture that can now be viewed on line at the Princeton Plasma Physics Lab website. One of the slides on the big screen was a picture of Donald Trump. Here is a link to the place where the lecture can be viewed: Science on Saturday: Improbable Research and the Ig Nobel Prizes.

One of the featured Ig Nobel Prizes discussed in the lecture was the now somewhat famous "Dunning Kruger Effect," for which an Ig Nobel was awarded in 2000. The Dunning Kruger Effect is based on a study which concluded that people who are incompetent to comprehend a subject are incompetent to know that they are incompetent. The Science on Saturday lectures take place in New Jersey, a very reliable blue state, and when discussing the award to Dunning and Kruger - which the speaker indicated is actually awarded to stimulate thinking - the speaker flashed a big picture, with an appropriate deadpan pause, of Donald Trump, who at that point occupied the White House, with the result of a loud round of laughter from the audience.

Of course, Donald Trump, the very stable genius, is famous for making endless statements about multiple subjects that begins with the words, "Nobody knows more about..." [insert subject] "...than I do," where all of the subjects he named are subjects about which he knows very little, or, in fact, nothing at all. There are videos on the internet which consist entirely of chains of these statements; if you can tolerate hearing anything at all from this sad excuse for a human being you can Google your way to videos of tandem statements by this fool referring to various subjects.

You can also Google your way to lots of lectures by and interviews of the psychologist David Dunning describing the effect. One of the points he makes is that the effect is not limited to Donald Trump, although Donald Trump may be regarded as a kind of reification of the effect, but we all over estimate ourselves in certain areas. For example, something like 88% of people estimate that their own driving skills are in the 25th highest percentile.

One path to over-estimating oneself is to assume that someone who speaks or writes on a particular subject with an air, that is, an affectation, of authority is, in fact, an authority, and thus, falling uncritically into this assumption, end up parroting that person’s views as one's own. This is an example of the famous logical fallacies of appeal to authority and appeal to false authority.

If of course, one knows nothing at all about a subject, and encounters someone who claims to do so, irrespective of their actual knowledge of the subject, it is quite possible, particularly if one is credulous, to believe whatever that person says, particularly if they enjoy some measure of fame for their position.

I certainly have some experience with being credulous.

I first learned about nuclear power growing up on Long Island, NY, during the controversy surrounding the construction of the Shoreham Nuclear Plant, which, after several billion dollars were spent building it, never provided a watt of power to the grid on Long Island. (It briefly achieved low power criticality.) The local newspaper on Long Island, Newsday, was very hostile to the Shoreham Nuclear Plant, as well as to the company that was building it, LILCO, the (now defunct) Long Island Lighting Company. Another almost local paper that was, and still is, hostile to nuclear energy is of course, the national “paper of record,” The New York Times, which can still hold forth endlessly on Fukushima and Chernobyl but never to my knowledge, gives any consideration at all to the 18,000 to 19,000 people who died yesterday, and the additional 19,000 who are dying again today, and the additional 19,000 who will again die tomorrow, all dying, day to day to day to day from air pollution, 19,000 being, by the way, is more people than will have died yesterday, today, and will die tomorrow, from Covid-19.

It is interesting to note that parts of Long Island, notably its south shore area, are prone to being submerged as a result climate change, a topic never discussed by the journalists who carried on endlessly about evacuating Long Island as a result of a putative melt down of the plant. In fact, parts of the South Shore were submerged during hurricane Sandy. (The Shoreham nuclear plant was built on a bluff on the North Shore of the Island.) During the storm, a relative of mine on Long Island had to move his entire family to the attic of their home, where they all hunkered down while water came through the floor boards, but thankfully the water subsided before they all drowned.

Now, well into a long scientific career, and having, post-Chernobyl, having undertaken a fairly exhaustive study of nuclear technology in the primary scientific literature, I can and do frequently make the joke that one cannot be awarded a degree in journalism if one has passed a college level science course, but this certainly wasn’t my attitude when I was growing up. I generally believed journalists when they wrote about science, and probably the reason was that I didn’t know very much science. (Neither of my parents graduated from high school; one didn’t graduate from junior high school.) I actually thought journalists knew something about science.

In my late teens and early 20s, as I rebelled against my parents political conservatism in such a way as to assume that if a topic or belief was commonly and widely held by political liberals, as I a nouveau political liberal, I was required to regard it as the right - indeed the only - position to take, I was drawn to journalists who wrote with hostility to nuclear energy. As a result, in my 20’s, I certainly was drawn to radical anti-nuclear journalists. An example of such a journalist, which is not to say that I specifically recall reading any of the dangerous and deadly tripe he’s been handing out in a toxic life that has led to the deaths of millions of people from air pollution, would be this guy: Harvey Wasserman.

Speaking of widely held de rigueur beliefs on the left, returning to the happy report that I was banned from a liberal website, Daily Kos, for making a true statement, based on the work of the climate scientist, Jim Hansen, who was very popular as a climate scientist at Daily Kos, until he said something that didn't jive with our dogma, by showing, unequivocally, that opposing nuclear energy kills people. It is not true that everyone on the left accepts science irrespective of politics, but of course, it appears to me that neither Markos Moulitsas or Tim Lange (Meteor Blades on Daily Kos) could have possibly passed a college level science course, since both have degrees in journalism.

Again, and again, and again, "to the last syllable of recorded time:"

Prevented Mortality and Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Historical and Projected Nuclear Power (Pushker A. Kharecha* and James E. Hansen Environ. Sci. Technol., 2013, 47 (9), pp 4889–4895)

Harvey Wasserman, who knows no chemistry, no engineering (electrical or otherwise), nothing at all about the chemistry of semi-conductors, or the chemistry of batteries, who knows no physics, nevertheless felt qualified to write a book on how to save the world, Solartopia! Our Green-Powered Earth, A.D. 2030

It's 2021, nine years before 2030, the magical year Wasserman evoked in 2006. Humanity is now consuming over 600 exajoules of energy per year. Solar energy doesn't produce 5 of them. When the first edition (of which I'm aware) of Solartopia was published in March of 2006, the concentration of the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide in the planetary atmosphere was 382.9 ppm. Yesterday, as of this writing February 3, 2021 it was 415.73 ppm (Accessed 02/04/21.) According to the World Health Organization web page, because 2.0 billion people lack access to basic sanitation:

Some 827 000 people in low- and middle-income countries die as a result of inadequate water, sanitation, and hygiene each year, representing 60% of total diarrhoeal deaths. Poor sanitation is believed to be the main cause in some 432 000 of these deaths.

Diarrhoea remains a major killer but is largely preventable. Better water, sanitation, and hygiene could prevent the deaths of 297 000 children aged under 5 years each year.


World Health Organization Fact Sheet

Solartopia indeed. (Bourgeois ethics can be appalling, can they not?)

Harvey Wasserman once put together a huge event in which prominent physicists and physical and semiconductor chemists, Bonnie Raitt, Jackson Brown, Crosby Stills and Nash, and Bruce Springsteen gathered in front of huge piles of electrically powered amplifiers, consuming thousands and thousands of watts, lit by powerful hundreds of thousand watt floodlights, to post equations to a huge screaming audience about "No Nukes."

Don’t worry. Be happy. Nothing to see here. No Nukes!

The famous rock guitarist guitarist and rock singer, Nobel Laureate Glenn Seaborg, chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission during the period when most of the US nuclear reactors were built and came on line, who discovered plutonium, americium, curium, berkelium, and californium, among other elements in the periodic table, and who advised every US President from Truman to Clinton, was not invited to the "No Nukes" concert, even though I'm sure that he could have lectured Bonnie Raitt on how to sing and how to play the slide guitar in a way that everyone would find appropriate, of course.

(For the record, I was a big fan of Bonnie Raitt's music, and when I was playing in clubs as a kid, a fair part of my repertoire, both in folk settings and in electric bands, consisted of interpretations of songs to which I was introduced by her records.)

Harvey Wasserman, impresario extraordinaire of "No Nukes" concerts is described, particularly by other journalists, as an "activist." Is this the same as expert? No, it isn't. He is an "expert" on nuclear energy in the same way as anti-vaccine "activist" former Playboy nude model and "actress" Jenny McCarthy is an expert on vaccines. Indeed, since nuclear energy saves lives that would otherwise be lost to air pollution Wasserman, like McCarthy applies his appalling ignorance to kill people.

Wasserman was born on New Year's Eve, 1945. It's surprising that he's not dead, since nuclear power didn't go away despite his best efforts, and of course, in 2030, if he isn't killed by plutonium atoms, he will be 85 years old. If he is still alive, and he may be, he will be another example of a petulant bourgeois airhead making glib promises about what future generations will do as an excuse for not be able to do what he predicts others will do himself. In 2030, the young men and women who were born in 2000, and who are in their early careers, will be living with fewer available resources, a vastly more damaged environment, and, oh yeah, abandoned solar cells that will have added to the existing intractable vast masses of electronic waste. Every twenty-five years, all of the infrastructure of so called "renewable energy" existing will need to be replaced in addition to any growth these unfortunate systems may experience.

Solartopia.

The actions of "activists" have consequences. In the 15 years since the first publication of Solartopia (which was in 2006 to my knowledge), somewhere between 90 million and 105 million lives were lost to air pollution. This is the equivalent of completely wiping out that so called "renewable energy" nirvana Germany, killing every man, woman and child, and then some. The concentration of the dangerous fossil fuel waste in the planetary atmosphere has risen by almost 33 ppm, or in the "percent talk" of "renewable energy" advocates, by 11.7% of the value in 2006.

Solartopia.

In the year that Harvey Wasserman was born, the very first plutonium based nuclear weapon was detonated in New Mexico, shortly after the first multi-kilogram quantities of the element had been synthesized and isolated from large quantities of uranium.

Nevertheless, Harvey Wasserman is still alive, despite the fact that during his life time, commercial nuclear power has grown from a rather primitive affair in the Manhattan Project era exclusively devoted to war, to a large commercial activity that represents the world's largest infinitely scalable source of carbon dioxide free energy ever developed. I guess, in spite of his massive paranoia, fed by his massive ignorance, nuclear power didn't wipe out the world, or even cause a death toll that approximates, even on a miniscule scale, the death toll associated with air pollution while we all wait, like Godot, through endless failed promises, for Solartopia..

Solartopia.

Above I made this statement: "Harvey Wasserman, who knows no chemistry, no engineering (electrical or otherwise), nothing at all about the chemistry of semi-conductors, or the chemistry of batteries, who knows no physics, nevertheless felt qualified to write a book..."

Given that I find Harvey Wasserman to be a disgusting excuse for a human being, a Jenny McCarthy of energy, is it really possible for me to assert what he does and does not know, given that I would be unwilling to spend more than 50 seconds in a room with him? It is true that when I was participating at Daily Kos, I had occasion to come across some of his writings there, and however far I went to endure them, I certainly can't recall any evidence that he knew any science, but am I being unfair? Is it possible that he, and Markos Moulitsas or Tim Lange have taken science courses and have passed them with a grade of C or better? Maybe. I see no evidence of it, but certainly it is possible. Am I being unfair?

I don't think so. I really don't have to study the knowledge base of Jenny McCarthy, who became an expert on autism, apparently, by being photographed naked in various provocative poses. If I really want to know anything about autism, I could alternatively - and I have actually done this - attend a lecture by Princeton Professor Sam Wang where he discussed the origins of autism, among other subjects.

Fairly or not - and I'm not inclined to be "fair" to either Jenny McCarthy or to Harvey Wasserman nor their many intellectual and moral equivalents - I see anti-vaxxers and anti-nukes as generic. Their beliefs - and they are nothing more than beliefs unconnected with facts - define completely enough who they are. At least to a first approximation, these beliefs also define what they know, to the point there can be no interest in further understanding how or why they came to their toxic, and frankly dangerous, ignorance. It is therefore a waste of time to get to the details of what they do and do not know.

On May 9, 2017, at Hanford one of two tunnels with some rail cars on which some retired chemical reactors utilized for the extraction of weapons grade plutonium from fuel rods collapsed. The tunnels were called the "Purex tunnels" after the PUREX process to isolate plutonium, invented by Nobel Laureate Glenn Seaborg, who never deigned to lecture Bonnie Raitt on how to play slide guitar. They were built in 1955, and were supported by steel and wood beams that severely corroded. A detailed engineering description of the tunnels can be found here: Purex Tunnel One Engineering Evaluation.

Ten days after the collapse the radiation levels in the area were measured. They are here: Sampling Data Purex Tunnels

If one reads through accounts of the response to this event, it becomes very clear that it involved tens of millions of dollars to address. From the radiation levels detected in the area, it's not immediately clear to me that even one life has been saved by the response, because the risk to human life at these levels is almost vanishingly small. It seems fairly obvious to me that if the same amount of money as has been spent on addressing the collapse of Hanford Purex Tunnel #1 had been spent building systems to handle human fecal waste for those who have no means of processing it, many more lives might have been saved than would have been lost if nothing had been done about the collapse of Purex Tunnel #1 beyond pouring concrete over it, if even that were worth it. In the actual event, well paid highly trained engineers, vast construction crews etc, etc expended their talents to solve the "catastrophe" of the tunnel collapse.

I have no idea how many opening posts I've authored at Democratic Underground and other blogs over the last two decades on various scientific subjects. Years ago, I might have recalled writing the bulk of them, but I no longer do. I am old, near the end of my life. It is clear that the overwhelming bulk of my scientific writings have concerned nuclear energy, all built around the oft repeated premise that nuclear energy need not be risk free to be vastly superior to all other options, including the wasteful and failed adventures in so called "renewable energy." The redundant tautological statement I often make is that "the only thing nuclear energy needs to be to be better than everything else is to be better than everything else which it is"

I would have never considered the collapse of Hanford Purex Tunnel #1, were my attention not drawn to it when a correspondent called up one of my old and forgotten posts on nuclear energy to sneer at me about it the "catastrophe" of a collapsed tunnel built in 1955 and largely forgotten. Of course, over the last two decades of blogging, I've seen lots of sneering at my position on nuclear energy, almost all of it abysmally stupid, but for some reason this particular sneer stuck in my mind with a mixture of amusement and disgust and perhaps more than a little horror, since air pollution kills and has been killing 6 to 7 million people per year for decades now while we all wait, like Godot, for the grand renewable energy nirvana that never comes and never will come. Air pollution killed more people today than any day of Covid-19 has killed on its worst day. It will kill more people tomorrow than Covid-19 killed on its worst day. Every day of this month, and next month, and the month after that, air pollution will kill more people than Covid-19 killed on its worst day.

But, at least in the mind of someone here, I needed to know, apparently, all about Purex Tunnel #1 at the Hanford nuclear weapons plant and now, and now, I do.

Solartopia.

I find all of the Harvey Wasserman wannabees tiresome, and after arguing - sometimes heatedly at no benefit to myself or to humanity since it is clear that no amount of information can change these people's minds; indeed they go full Qanon with conspiracy theories at times, I’ve decided simply to ignore them. You know how much... "there is no safe amount of radiation," and "government coverups" and related horseshit… can one take? I've learned to use here the tool not available at Daily Kos, the magnificent DU "ignore list." I am too old to spend too much time on stupidity.

Over the last few years, I've referred, with my penchant for sarcastic shorthand to the evocation of the collapse of Hanford's Purex Tunnel #1 as a kind of catch all for the intellectual (or anti-intellectual) myopia of anti-nukes, their curious, or better incurious, selective attention to the point of obliviousness. I obviously included the author of the evocation in question on my ignore list, but the evocation itself sticks somehow in my mind as an ultimate "head up the ass" statement, a kind of distraction from reality worthy of Fox News on some level. As such, I've referred to it from time to time in this space, and recently, when using a computer on which I declined to log in, I noted that one of my references to this evocation generated some accusatory commentary from a person on my ignore list. For old time's sake, I temporarily shrank my ignore list to remark as follows:

...the post about the collapsed tunnel was a perfect indication of the trivializing mentality of anti-nukes, their almost paranoid belief that if a single atom of a radionuclide is not permanently contained it will magically tunnel into their tiny brains and kill them, it stuck in my mind as a kind of symbol...


The response was this:

I never said anything to imply this.
"I will say though, as the post about the collapsed tunnel was a perfect indication of the trivializing mentality of anti-nukes, their almost paranoid belief that if a single atom of a radionuclide is not permanently contained it will magically tunnel into their tiny brains and kill them, it stuck in my mind as a kind of symbol."
Total straw man.


Straw man? Should I be offended?

Let's leave aside the question of whether a lazy reference to a logical fallacy somehow matters in the context of comparison of the collape of Hanford's Purex Tunnel Number 1 to the death of almost 24 million people as of this writing from air pollution since the tunnel's collapse.

It gets better than this, because the Dunning Kruger effect is operative here because a concern about the collapse of Hanford's Purex Tunnel #1 certainly implies something, but perhaps the correspondent, not understanding a damn thing about the subject of the migration of radionuclides which I discussed at length above, the idiot raising the point is completely unaware of what is being implied by raising his or her point about the tunnel collapse on a planet where 18,000 to 19,000 people die every day from air pollution.

In the pharmaceutical industry there is a concept built around biologically active species known as the "BCS classification."

It is usually represented graphically:



We have already established that PuO2 has very low solubility above, placing it in either BCS Class II or Class IV, but what about it's permeability? Can we determine if it easily cross the membranes of the alimentary canal to get absorbed into the body?

The first known human ingestion of plutonium occurred on August 1, 1944, when a young chemist working on the Manhattan Project, Don Mastick had a vial, containing about 10 mg of plutonium chloride explode in his face with some of it landing in his mouth. (It was not, as reported by Eileen Welsome's otherwise wonderful book The Plutonium Files, the world supply. Gram quantities of plutonium were available by late 1944.) Mastick's stomache was pumped, and some of the plutonium he swallowed was recovered from his feces and urine. In urine, the concentration was extremely low, near the limit of detection, suggesting BCS Class IV. However much he actually absorbed is not precisely known, although his face and breath were radioactive for some time. He nevertheless lived to by 87, dying in 2007.

Many controlled animal studies, and, regrettably, unethical human studies - as detailed in Ms. Welsome's book - were also conducted in subsequent years, and indeed there have been a number of accidental ingestions of plutonium since Dr. Mastick's time.

Much of what we know about the permeability of plutonium comes from fallout from open air nuclear tests, particularly among Marshall Islanders. The "f1" value, absorption seems to be, for the (predominant) oxide to be on the order of 10^(-4) or 10^(-5). (cf. Alimentary Tract Absorption (f1 Values) for Radionuclides in Local and Regional Fallout from Nuclear Tests (Ibrahim, Shawki A.; Simon, Steven L.; Bouville, André; Melo, Dunstana; Beck, Harold Health Physics: August 2010 Volume 99 Issue 2 - p 233-251). This information places plutonium oxide in BCS class IV, which, in pharmaceutical settings is the most problematic class with which to deal. Overall, it means the blood levels from drinking well water at the Nevada National (In)security Site's worst contaminated water, the well water adjacent to at the Chancellor Nuclear Test location, about 55 pCi/liter, at something like 0.003 pCi, implies that one would need to wait about 6 minutes to detect a single nuclear decay from a single plutonium atom anywhere in the human body. This does seem to call into question whether a stupid person whining insipidly about "strawman" arguments while clearly lacking a shred of reasoning ability overall is in fact knowledgeable enough to assert whether my assertion about single atoms is "unfair," although, again, toxic thinking does not deserve fairness at all; sarcasm is entirely appropriate. Implications depend on perceptional ability, and not necessarily the raw value of a statement. If one does not understand what one is saying, one can and often is, a la Dunning-Kruger, unaware of implications.

Despite my disinclination to be "fair," in fairness, to some extent, the permeability is determined by oxidation state, and by complexation, but it is certainly the case that residual plutonium at the site of the Hanford Purex Tunnel #1 site is the oxide, particularly since the radioactivity at the site has been measured, and measured for a real hazard for incorporation of physiological plutonium, inhalation and found not to be elevated above background (See the link above). (The other is injection, or entry through a wound, the latter a situation that may have been obtained in the only nuclear war ever observed, which took place in 1945, over 65 years ago. It would be a sane world in which we spent as much time worrying about oil wars, and the diversion of petroleum products to weapons of mass destruction, as we do to preventing nuclear wars, since nuclear wars are no longer observed, even when certifiably insane people like, say, Donald Trump, have access to such weapons.)

The distribution of plutonium in organs and pharmacokinetics (DMPK) has been studied in mice, using a soluble form of the element, including the nitrate, and the two viable routes of administration, inhalation and injection settings:



(cf. Table 2, Waylon Weber, Melanie Doyle-Eisele, Dunstana R. Melo & Raymond A. Guilmette (2014) Whole-body distribution of plutonium in rats for different routes of exposure, Int J of Radiation Biology, 90:11, 1011-1018).

A knowledgeable person could argue that in the Purex process, plutonium is present as a (soluble) nitrate, however, the process relies n precipitating the nitrate as an oxalate, which on occasion spontaneously decomposes to the insoluble dioxide. This was almost certainly a problem, often an intractable problem, in the 1950's, when the chemical reactors in Hanford Purex Tunnel #1 were discarded there, and it may be in fact, the reason they were placed there. I have no idea. I do know that up to this day, the issue of the formation of the oxide from the oxalate is still the subject of research: A review of plutonium oxalate decomposition reactions and effects of decomposition temperature on the surface area of the plutonium dioxide product R.M. Orr, H.E. Sims, R.J. Taylor, Journal of Nuclear Materials, Volume 465, 2015, Pages 756-773.

It is very clear that any plutonium remaining on these reactors is in the form of the insoluble dioxide, which is why, in all of the literature and reports on the subject of this super tragic even, the collapse of a 20 meter section of Hanford Purex Tunnel #1, there is no discussion of plutonium.

So what is discussed in this adventure on which millions of dollars have been spent without any evidence that any lives would have been lost without such an expenditure?

What is discussed is technetium and iodine. All isotopes of technetium are radioactive, but the only isotope of serious consideration in nuclear fuel reprocessing is Tc-99. In the case of iodine, two isotopes are present, I-127 which is the natural isotope, and iodine-129, which is a very long lived radioactive fission product, with a half-life of 15.7 million years. There is a 100% chance that if you were born after 1945 that your thyroid contains iodine-129. You have lived your whole life in its presence, just like you have lived your whole life in the presence of radioactive potassium-40. Not all the iodine-129 in your thyroid by the way, comes from open air or even subterranean nuclear weapons testing. The French nuclear fuel reprocessing plant at La Hague used to dump it in the ocean, which I argued, long ago, was a good idea: Radioactive Isotopes from French Commercial Nuclear Fuel Found In Mississippi River.

I wrote:

I contend that if the number of people who have died from French radioiodine is not zero, it is very, very, very, very close to zero. Suppose that to prevent the release of radioiodine we required those nasty French to spend 100 million dollars to capture and contain all of their iodine. How many lives would be saved? One, maybe two, if that. Now ask yourself how many lives could be saved by donating 100 million dollars to an AIDs prevention program in Zimbabwe.


Most iodide salts are soluble, with some notable exceptions, for instance Hg2I2, mercury (I) iodide, so it is difficult to imagine the form in which the iodine exists in these reactors. An answer might be found by considering the element in its oxidized state, as iodate, IO3-, which historically was used in the days of gravimetric precipitation as an analytical tool, before the widespread use of ICP-OES and ICP-MS, for the determination of uranium, since uranium iodate is insoluble, as is thorium iodate. This is no matter, I’m not going to discuss the iodine any more.

A report from the government, Annual Status Report (FY 2019): Composite Analysis for Low Level Waste Disposal in the Central Plateau of the Hanford Site gives the level of radioactive contamination of Hanford Purex Tunnels #1 (that which partially collapsed) and Hanford Purex Tunnel #2:



Again, repeating the link above, Sampling Data Purex Tunnels it does not appear that significant quantities of radioactive materials made it to the surface, despite the fact that dust must have been generated. From the Tc activity reported in Hanford Purex Tunnel #1, 0.27 Ci, one can calculate that the total amount of technetium in the combined discarded chemical reactors in the Tunnel was about 16 grams. Hanford Purex Tunnel #1 contained about 97 grams. If one has not joined Greenpeace and can thus be expected to be capable of doing simple mathematical operations, in this case addition, we can see there were 113 grams of technetium total.

Here is a sampling (for Tunnel #2) of what your government did to address these 15.8 grams of technetium in Hanford Purex Tunnel #1 and 97 grams in Hanford Purex Tunnel #2 according the FY 2019 Annual Status Report on the Hanford "Cleanup:"

On May 9, 2017, workers discovered a partial collapse of the timber roof structure in a portion of PUREX Tunnel 1. Actions were immediately taken to protect personnel in the area, monitor for potential releases, notify the regulatory agencies and public of the event, and implement response actions. Initial work included backfilling the collapsed zone with soil to provide radiation shielding, performing contamination control, protecting from ambient conditions, and locally stabilizing the tunnel support structure. The threat of further failure of Tunnel 1 was eliminated by void filling the tunnel with engineered concrete/grout (grout) in FY 2018.

A structural evaluation also identified a future threat of failure for Tunnel 2, which contains 28 railcars with contaminated processing equipment and materials generated during Hanford’s weapons production mission. DOE-RL addressed this threat by void filling Tunnel 2 with engineered grout in FY 2019. Grouting was placed in Tunnel 2 from October 2018 through April 26, 2019. The filling required approximately 4,000 truckloads (40,000 cubic yards) of grout. Cameras in the tunnel were used to ensure the grout flowed the length of the tunnel and around the contaminated equipment inside. The grout was injected in several lifts, or layers, and each lift was allowed to set before the next began. Final closure of the tunnels will be coordinated with future remedial actions of the PUREX canyon as part of the 200-CP-1 Operable Unit (OU). PNNL-11800, Addendum 1 provides a bounding sensitivity analysis for the impact of the composite analysis results of the PUREX tunnels.


Maybe it's just me, but I can't help wondering if more people faced serious effects from the diesel fuel waste (aka "air pollution) used to power 4,000 cement mixers carrying 4,000 loads of "engineered grout" containing lime which was unquestionably prepared by heating calcium carbonate to over 1000°C for hours in a rotating retort, using the combustion of dangerous fossil fuels to provide the heat and probably the motor to drive the rotating retort than would ever have faced such a risk from the technetium in Hanford Purex Tunnels #1 and #2 if nothing had been done.

Here's why:

The Purex process, as was most likely practiced at Hanford, involves the mechanical chopping of fuel rods, following oxidative dissolution of the oxide fuel within them using nitric acid, followed by extraction - generally with kerosene as a solvent for various alkyl phosphates and related complexing agents. During this process, the technetium fission product is oxidized to the pertechnetate ion, TcO4-. (HTcO4 is a strong acid.)

The pertechnetate ion, in which the oxidation state is +7, has been widely studied for its behavior in geological formulations, and is known to be quite mobile; it rarely if ever is adsorbed by minerals unlike another highly soluble fission product cesium, in all its heavy isotopes. This behavior accounts for the unexpectedly low concentrations of Ru-99, technetium's decay product, at the fossils of the Oklo natural nuclear reactors.

The pertechnetate ion is the form of technetium that people eat for medical tests involving technetium imagining, eating technetium being currently the main use for the element. The isotope of technetium utilized in these tests is far more radioactive than the technetium in Hanford Purex Tunnels #1 and #2. It is the nuclear isomer, Tc99m, of the technetium in the tunnel, Tc99, to which the Tc99m decays with a half-life of 6.01 hours. Over a period of days and weeks, the Tc99, with a half-life of 211,100 years is excreted into toilet bowls, whereupon it finds its way into groundwater, or rivers, or lakes, and eventually into the ocean, where it joins technetium there from nuclear weapons testing, and some from the release by weapons plants like Hanford, as well as commercial fuel reprocessing plants like Sellafield in the UK.

The typical dose of Tc-99m is 10 mCi, this translates, given the 6.01 hour half-life, to 1.9 nanograms of technetium. At the moment of ingestion, the human body is roughly 87,000 times more radioactive than it is from the radioactivity connected with essential potassium (from K-40).

Information about the radioactivity, biological half-life, and dosing is given here: University of Michigan, Radioactive Safety Guide, 99m-Tc. After 24 hours, depending on the globular filtration rate, about half of the two nuclear isomers of Tc-99 has been excreted, and half remains in the body. Of this about 6.28% remains the highly radioactive 99mTc, and the rest is Tc-99, the same isotope in the Hanford tunnels. The activity of the Tc-99 remaining in the body is 0.035 Beq, meaning that about 28 seconds is required on average for an atom of Tc-99 to decay.

One may ask, given the mobility and solubility of technetium, as well as the fact that the Purex process certainly involves acidic aqueous solutions, why it is even there in the terrible Hanford Purex Tunnels #1 and #2, with which I was presented here - this to justify my acceptance of tens of millions of air pollution deaths every decade since the tunnels were first built – why is the technetium even there? Given its solubility and mobility, shouldn’t it have leached away?

Here is a Pourbaix diagram for technetium:



The solubility of technetium(IV) at high pH (Peter Warwick , S. Aldridge , Nick Evans and Sarah Vines Radiochim. Acta 95, 709–716 (2007))

Here is another, where pH is substituted with sulfide species concentration and superimposed on a Pourbaix diagram of the iron/sulfate/sulfide system.



The caption:

Figure 8. Fe/S/Tc speciation diagram showing Eh vs log activity (HS? ) in Hanford synthetic groundwater
([TcO4?] 10?5 M, pH 7.9, 25 °C) . Reprinted with permission from ref 80. Copyright 2013 American Chemical Society.


Technetium Stabilization in Low-Solubility Sulfide Phases: A Review

(Carolyn I. Pearce, Jonathan P. Icenhower, R. Matthew Asmussen, Paul G. Tratnyek, Kevin M. Rosso, Wayne W. Lukens, and Nikolla P. Qafoku ACS Earth and Space Chemistry 2018 2 (6), 532-547)

...from the supplementary information of...

Reductive Sequestration of Pertechnetate (99TcO4–) by Nano Zerovalent Iron (nZVI) Transformed by Abiotic Sulfide

(Dimin Fan, Roberto P. Anitori, Bradley M. Tebo, Paul G. Tratnyek, Juan S. Lezama Pacheco, Ravi K. Kukkadapu, Mark H. Engelhard, Mark E. Bowden, Libor Kovarik, and Bruce W. Arey Environmental Science & Technology 2013 47 (10), 5302-5310)

While the TcO4- anion, in the +7 oxidation state of technetium is very soluble and very mobile, the dioxide of technetium is not.

The solubility increases, albeit by a minor amount, as solutions become very basic via the formation of a hydroxide complex, but the solubility is trivial.

Here, from the 2007 Radiochimica Acta paper cited above in connection with the technetium Pourbaix diagram is a figure reflecting that solubility:



Rain water is not basic; it tends to be acidic, particularly when polluted by dangerous fossil fuel waste. We can see that from the acid side of the above diagram, as far as it goes toward the acid side (pH = 6) TcO2 is very insoluble. Even at the highest pH in shown in the graph, the concentration of TcO2 in water rises to only 80 billionths of a mole, trivial.

The Radiochimica Acta paper is all about the solubility of TcO2 in the presence of two reducing agents. A table of solubilities provided in the paper showing the solubility using two different reducing agents. That table is this one:



The reducing agent is iron in the +2 oxidation state in this paper, an oxidation state present whenever metallic iron rusts. It turns out that many times when people suggest the appalling idea of putting technetium in a dump, the discuss doing so in the form of an iron/technetium metallic alloy, relying on the reduction of technetium to insoluble TcO2. I will briefly discuss why dumping this valuable element is a dumb idea below.

Of course, some TcO2 dissolves. I don't happen to know the pH of the groundwater at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation, but I very much doubt it is above 11, which is getting into Drano territory. From the Radiochimica Acta graphic just shown, if the pH is less than 11, we can safely assume that the solubility is well below any of the values cited in the table just above.

Let's take the highest value measured for the solubility of iron reduced TcO2 from the table above, 2.3 X 10^(-9) (2.3 nanomoles) at the lowest pH at which it was measured 11.8. The molar specific activity of technetium-99 is 6.26 X 10^(10) Beq/mol. It follows, if one has not joined Greenpeace and can therefore do arithematic, that the amount of radioactivity in a liter of water at pH 11.8 saturated with TcO2 is 144 Beq.

The reactors in the tunnel at Hanford undoubtedly contain steel, as does the rail cars on which they were stored, as does the tracks on which the railcars were packed. It is therefore very, very likely that the reason that it was not possible to detect a huge amount of technetium related radioactivity around the collapsed tunnel is that it is not mobile TcO4- but is rather insoluble TcO2.

But we can extend this further. The figure of 144 Beq/liter applies only at the very local region of water in direct contact with the TcO2. As the technetium diffuses, the concentration decreases by dilution via diffusion or flow, and/or absorption.

I suppose one could go crazy doing calculations about this situation considering Fick's law of diffusion, or modifications of it to get diffusion advection equations in the case of flow. One could even go crazier, arguing all day whether a Stokes-Einstein formulation of the diffusion constant is appropriate with or without Langmuir or Freundlich corrections apply.

It is clear, or should be clear, that the concentration of technetium dioxide will decrease the further one gets away from the terrible tunnels of fear that was exposed by the anti-nuke who thinks I should study his or her utterance to see if he or she ever was arguing about a single atom of radioactivity in what is clearly his or her poorly applied brain. The most likely case - and this is the real point, the argument being made about whether or not the collapse of a tunnel at Hanford is an argument against using nuclear energy to save human lives that would be and in fact, are otherwise lost to air pollution, numbering in the hundreds of millions in two or three decades, is full of implications. Diluting the a liter of most concentrated TcO2 solution at pH 11.8 to 1000 liters, would amount to concentrations of a single atom decaying in a liter of water, making it far less radioactive than the seawater in which life evolved.

During a recent virtual meeting of the American Chemical Society, I had the privilege of attending a lecture on the subject of technetium by Dr. Carolyn Pearce a geochemist at the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, the laboratory associated with the Hanford Reservation, where the tunnel collapsed. There is a lot of technetium at Hanford, of course, in the "waste" tanks, and elsewhere, but, as in the case with the collapsed tunnel, the quantities and location are mostly known. According to Dr. Pearce's lecture, as I recall it, she indicated that there was about 500 Ci that is "missing," that is, the scientists at Hanford don't know where it is but they believe it is "somewhere."

Five hundred Ci of technetium, using the conversion factor that a Ci is equal (exactly) to 3.7 X 10^(10) Beq, which translates, given the specific activity of Tc-99, to about 1.8 X 10^(13) Bq, and further translates to just under 30 kg of the pure metal. As of this writing (06/12/21) , the flow rate in the Columbia River, on which the Hanford reservation is located, is 194,000 cubic feet per second. This is the lowest amount ever recorded since records have been kept, and it is most likely the result of climate change, which is accelerating because we don't go nuclear against climate change. (The previous low, recorded in 2016, was 213,000 cubic feet per second.) This low flow rate translates into around 5.5 million liters per second. This means that if all 500 missing Ci of technetium were instantaneously, within one second, injected into the Columbia River, the concentration in the river would be momentarily 3.3 million Bq/liter, or about 9 microcuries/liter, roughly the amount of radioactivity that one drinks for a Tc-99m medical imaging test. If, by contrast, 500 Ci of technetium leached out over a day, with 86,400 seconds in a day, the concentration would be about 40 Bq/liter, and if it leached out over a year, 0.2 Beq/liter, over 10 years, the activity would be lower than the activity of seawater from the natural decay of natural radioactive potassium-40. Of course, this technetium has not leached out in periods much longer than this. To the extent geological technetium encounters zero valent or low valent iron, it will leach at rates much lower.

The Columbia River terminates near a large city, Portland Oregon, which has some of the the highest life expectancy, 89.1 years, in the Northwest portion of the city, which many not because of the proximity of the Hanford reservation, but in spite of it. The effect of Hanford on life expectancy in Portland is unknown. Nevertheless, the citizens of Portland Oregon, could not, and have never, drank the full contents of the Columbia River; unlike the Colorado River, it still flows to the sea. An argument about 500 Ci of technetium getting into the river - an argument I have just made - is just silly.

If it happens that an anti-nuke is uneducated enough and or uninterested enough not to know what he or she is saying, or implying, it is clear to me that I'm no more interested in doing anything but ignoring such a person, - except to make a point about the general mentality of the type as I'm doing here - just like I ignore the more famous toxic fool Harvey Wasserman. Is it worth examining what a moron did or did not actually say? Harvey Wasserman will say he gives a shit about fossil fuels and about climate change, but the reality is that Harvey Wasserman never held a concert with big rock stars using amplifiers powered by the combustion of fossil fuels to raise money to ban fossil fuels. From this, it's entirely clear, who and what he is. Harvey Wasserman, I have argued, is not worth the time wasted considering what he does or does not say. He is an anti-science moral and intellectual Lilliputian. His or her writings imply that he doesn't give a shit about how many people die every damned day from air pollution, and any lip service he gives to it with stupid ravings about Solartopia do not matter, since chasing after Solartopia at a cost of trillions of dollars has not arrested climate change nor has it reduced the loss of life from air pollution.
Does it matter that an anti-nuke here freaks out about a tunnel collapsing at Hanford? Is there some reason that I should be studying his or her writings here to see what he or she did and did not say? How about Jenny McCarthy? The anti-nuke, anti-vaccine, anti-wind, anti-GMO nutcase Robert F. Kennedy Jr?

The fact is, that if you are calling someone's old post about nuclear energy to report that it has implications to prevent nuclear energy from saving lives, which it does, it is the equivalent of calling for a ban on fossil fuels because one has encountered a school bus that is spewing black smoke from burning oil in a failing engine.

We are in Dunning-Kruger territory, a region of Trumpian disinformation given out of ignorance.

In interviews available on the internet, Dunning makes the valid point which is this: You don't have to be as dumb as Trump to display the effect, everyone displays the effect. I have heard and even read about the much discussed among certain subsets of very brilliant scientists about topological insulators, but if I made any claim about them, or engaged in an argument concerning them, I would be in Dunning Kruger territory.

It is one thing to not know something, quite another to deliberately ignore facts. Facts matter.

I recall - I read it a very long time ago - that in the opening pages Abraham Pais's biography of Albert Einstein, Subtle is the Lord: The Science and Life of Albert Einstein, Pais, who knew Einstein personally and was his friend as a young man, recounts walking down Mercer Street with the famed scientist having an argument about whether the moon exists when it is behind a cloud or has not risen.

This was, of course, about the "Copenhagen Interpretation" of quantum mechanics. Einstein objected strongly to the "Copenhagen Interpretation" of the discipline he had done so much to found.

Nevertheless, it is impossible to even remotely state how much of the modern world, the science and the technology - everything from cell phones to medication, to TV sets and computers - depends on the fact that Einstein, one of the greatest scientists ever known, had entered into Dunning-Kruger territory.

Comparison of the moon to an electron, while made by one of the greatest minds the world has ever known, is perhaps not all that different than comparing the risks a collapsed rail tunnel to the roughly 25 million deaths from air pollution that have taken place since the Hanford Tunnel collapsed, exciting a breathless comment over in the E&E forum in one of my old threads. But we can be sure that Albert Einstein knew the difference between the moon and an electron.

It is clear that Harvey Wasserman has never looked, and doesn't care, despite any and all mutterings he might make to the contrary, about the difference in the death toll from dangerous fossil fuels and nuclear energy that have taken place in his long and criminally useless life, a difference that is idiot rhetoric did much to cause. The scale is Trumpian.

There was no greater America than the one Trump did so much to destroy, and there is no better source of clean energy than nuclear energy.

I apologize for posting this very long post, even as I do it. I trust you will have a pleasant weekend, assuming you wasted time getting here.
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828 Underground Nuclear Tests, Plutonium Migration in Nevada, Dunning, Kruger, Strawmen, and Tunnels (Original Post) NNadir Jun 2021 OP
Ill just repost this, I will add a link so people can make up their own mind. Eko Jun 2021 #1
Why Nnadir is right John ONeill Jun 2021 #2
Oh, geeze... NNadir May 2022 #3
Some more info from the AP Eko May 2022 #4
It was fun to see this meaty post back at the top again. hunter May 2022 #5
This remark you make is the real crux of the issue. NNadir May 2022 #6

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1. Ill just repost this, I will add a link so people can make up their own mind.
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except for the fact that the storage of used nuclear fuel is only remarkable since its storage, despite the incessant caterwauling of anti-nukes, hasn't killed anyone.
And the disposal of solar cells has?

Where is humanity putting 36 billion tons of carbon dioxide, along with heavy metals, carcinogenic organic compounds and other horrible stuff that constitutes dangerous fossil fuel waste?? Do you have a "safe and reliable" "harmless" way to store it forever?

Do you know where it's being "stored" right now, today? I'll tell you where: It's being "stored" in every living organism on the planet, in the cells, tissues, organs of every living organism on earth or in the matrices on which every organism on earth depends, specifically air, water and soil.

I repeatedly refer to the 7 million people killed each year from air pollution which is dangerous fossil fuel waste as well as dangerous biomass combustion waste, and typically, in classic anti-nuke selective attention, I get a selective attention response.

When, exactly, despite all the "waste mentality" caterwauling about it, has so called "Nuclear waste" killed seventy million people in a ten year period, for example the last ten years, when, again, the world squandered more than two trillion dollars on so called renewable energy while the death toll from air pollution and climate change continued to rise, not fall?

Of course, when I raise this point, I hear nothing but insipid - to the point of criminal - whining. "We're not talking about air pollution! We're not talking about air pollution!"

Why for the love of God are you not talking about air pollution!?!
Because I am not arguing with you that air pollution is not bad, of course it is. Once again the argument is you think nuclear is safer than solar.

Again, why are you not concerned with 36 billion tons of carbon dioxide a year? You are aware, aren't you than 70,000 people reportedly died in 2003 from exposure to high temperatures in Europe? It was reported in the scientific literatureeath toll exceeded 70,000 in Europe during the summer of 2003 (Comptes Rendus Biologies Volume 331, Issue 2, February 2008, Pages 171–178)

You think that dealing with climate change is easy, but dealing with used nuclear fuel is difficult? Really? Are you willing to get serious, or are you just pulling my leg?
Just because I don't use air pollution in every single post to further my argument that solar is not more dangerous than nuclear, and what that has to do with the dangers of solar or nuclear is beyond me, doesn't mean that I don't care about air pollution and climate change, quit putting words into my mouth please.

Who, exactly, do you think you're talking to? Some airhead on a "wind and solar are great!" website run by people who have never taken or passed an engineering or science course in their pathetic lives?

Science and engineering? Really?
I think I am talking to somebody that does indeed seem to know a lot about nuclear energy but even more so engages in logical fallacies such as moving the goalposts, proof by verbosity, red herring, false analogy, hasty generalization, misleading vividness, Ad hominem,,,, I could keep going.
As for the science and engineering yes,
"The U.S. has 71,862 tons of the waste, according to state-by-state numbers obtained by The Associated Press. But the nation has no place to permanently store the material, which stays dangerous for tens of thousands of years.

Plans to store nuclear waste at Nevada's Yucca Mountain have been abandoned, but even if a facility had been built there, America already has more waste than it could have handled." "The U.S. nuclear industry says the waste is being stored safely at power-plant sites, though it has long pushed for a long-term storage facility. Meanwhile, the industry's collective pile of waste is growing by about 2,200 tons a year; experts say some of the pools in the United States contain four times the amount of spent fuel that they were designed to handle." http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42219616/ns/business-us_business/t/us-storage-sites-overfilled-spent-nuclear-fuel/#.WRiNmsa1uUk

Notice the 2,200 tons a year. Multiply that by 1800% = 39,600 tons each year. Taking care of that much waste every year to a nation already struggling to take care of what it has does indeed seem to be a Science and engineering problem.

Now, as I've continued my research, I may have changed some of my ideas from back in 2010 and before, since I've grown in my respect for the problems that the constituents of used nuclear fuel, might be utilized to accomplish for future generations, but the basic concept remains unchanged: My "solution" to the problem of so called "nuclear waste" is to utilize all of the valuable constituents therein.

Used nuclear fuel for the most part consists of largely insoluble solids, with some minor exceptions. Carbon dioxide is a gas. Which is easier to contain, 75,000 tons of solids or hundreds of billions of tons of gases?

Now you ask me to tell you what I think we should do with what you and not I, call nuclear waste?
Perhaps you have heard of the NWTRB? Its a part of the government that deals with nuclear waste, Ill give you a hint what the W stands for in their name.

Did you do any work at all before asking this question or is just the recitation of lazy pablum that you think allows you to make a judgement about humanity's fate?
Oh no, I did some work. I certainly did enough not to have to engage in childish ad hominem attacks to get my point across. I do know that nuclear waste can be used further to power us, such as IFR's, diamond batteries and use for medical products. But, as interesting as this is once again the argument is whether nuclear is safer than solar.

Don't talk to me about "Science and Engineering" with a glib superficial and clearly mindless reference to so called "nuclear waste" unless you're willing to learn something about science and engineering. Clearly the nature of your question indicates that you haven't done a damned thing to understand nuclear technology and, like most anti-nukes, are merely criticizing something you know nothing about.
I am not anti nuke, quit putting words into my mouth. Once again I am anti you saying that solar is more dangerous than nuclear. Your continued use of a straw man argument is quite disconcerting and I am asking you to stop it please. I personally believe we need and will continue to need nuclear energy in the future.

By the way, I used to be a nuclear critic before 1986, because I knew nothing at all about nuclear science. The only difference between you and me is that unlike you, I questioned my assumptions.

If you are willing to do that, question your assumptions you will have a right to speak. If one refuses to do that and simply chants insipid phrases over and over and over and over mindlessly, one should be ignored if one offers up garbage rhetoric which, again, kills people through moral and intellectual indifference.

I am not a nuclear critic, you used straw man again, I question my assumptions and have liked this argument because it made me research things that I have not for a while. Have a right to speak? Who do think you are that you think you can decide whether or not I have a right to speak? You who insults, uses logical fallacies left and right and are generally a very unpleasant person to talk to? Chants insipid phrases over and over mindlessly? You mean like bring up air pollution in an argument over nuclear and solar and which is more dangerous? Or that I am anti nuke? It seems that to you, one cannot mention the safety and viability of nuclear vs solar without wanting to kill the world and be personally responsible for the deaths occurring and that will occur from air pollution. I think its possible that you need to challenge your assumptions, especially the one where you think solar is more dangerous that nuclear.

Have a nice Sunday,.
Anyone reading this knows that you don't mean that at all.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1127110309

I think everyone here can read this and see that multiple times you have used strawman as well as quite a few other tasty logical fallacies and insults. They dont need to read a books worth of science to see it and I didn't have to write a books worth of, how to say this nicely, fluff to prove my point. I find it both humorous and sad that you spent that much time and research just to try, and I say try, to discount my claim that you used strawman on me.
The "nuclear will save us fantasy" after half a century of wild cheering has not worked, is not working and won't work to displace dangerous fossil fuels and address climate change.
Have a great night!
Eko.

John ONeill

(60 posts)
2. Why Nnadir is right
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 09:16 AM
Jun 2021

The fact is that nuclear has done far better than solar in displacing coal and other fossils. France is the obvious example in Europe, and Ontario in North America, but their are many others. For example, the United Kingdom has not had a very extensive rollout of nuclear - it makes about 20% of the power, similar to the US - but that's enough to keep their CO2 emissions from electricity generation to about half those of Germany, generally speaking, despite Germany having famously built enough wind, solar, and biomass to give peak production twice over, if those sources didn't fade most of the time they were needed. The Brits are burning no coal at all in their power stations, while Germany is planning to phase it out by 2040, but keeps missing its targets.Even Ukraine, which has less than a tenth the per capita income of Germany, and can't afford to squander 200B Euro on such fickle power sources, generally manages to get lower emissions per kwh than Germany, with more than half its power from nukes. No country anywhere gets more than about ten percent of their power from solar, despite ruinous government incentives. Both Spain and Italy, fairly sunny places, had to rescind their over-generous solar rebates, ruining many of the small investors who'd put their savings into solar systems. Spain, though, still gets 20% of its power from nuclear, and has much lower emissions than Italy. Italy gets more of its power from solar than any other country, but still has high emissions, burns plenty of coal, and despite banning nuclear power on its territory, imports more nuclear power from France, Switzerland, and Slovenia than it gets from its own solar.
Japan provides a counter-example, where overreaction to the Fukushima meltdowns led to a large increase in coal and gas burning, which solar has done little to alleviate. A glance at the daily generation graph for Kyushu, the sunniest island in the Land of the Rising Sun, shows why. The island's only two still functioning nuclear plants make about half its power all the time, while solar only makes about the same at midday.
https://www.electricitymap.org/zone/JP-KY?wind=false&solar=false

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
3. Oh, geeze...
Sat May 14, 2022, 09:32 PM
May 2022

I missed this um, precious, bit, which is so illustrative.

Let me start here:

One thing anti-nukes, including "I'm not an anti-nukes" should never try to do is math.

They're not good at it.

As for people telling me who or what I am and who or what they are all I can say is this:

People want to define themselves in spite of themselves all the time.

Case in point:

Donald Trump says he's a person who loves America. Um, he doesn't, because America is defined by its constitution for which he has no respect.

Who, therefore, gives a fuck what he says he is, when everything else he says definitively displays what he is.

Similarly, I don't give a fuck about people declaring that they are not anti-nukes when they glibly hand out anti-nuke bullshit as if it was remotely connected with reality.

I hear lots and lots and lots and lots of inane commentary from anti-nukes, including "I'm not an anti-nuke" anti-nukes, about so called "nuclear waste," about which they know either zero or next to zero, where "next to zero" is of comic book quality.

It's not like any of these assholes know, for example, ternary fission and the capture cross section of C-14 or how it applies to nuclear fuels, or how secular equilibrium applies to the availability Cs-137, or could comment on the ternary phase diagram of the Np-Am-Pu system, or for that matter rhodium selenide and Mo/Tc/Pd/Ru metal phases.

Rather they repeat horseshit from journalists who are dumb and as uneducated as they are.

For example, the "associated press reports..."

"[nuclear waste] ...stays dangerous for tens of thousands of years."

I've noted over the years that the dumb shits handing this crap out can never decide on whether it's "thousands," and "tens of thousands" and "hundreds of thousands" and even millions and then even billions of years that used nuclear fuel is alleged to be "dangerous." They just pull numbers out of their asses, depending on the time of day and to whom they believe they are speaking.

It would be interesting if to support the word "dangerous" with respect to used nuclear fuel a stupid journalist or a person quoting a stupid journalist would probably be compelled, were they rational, to find an instance where the small quantities of nuclear fuel actually injured someone and were they to find such a person or persons, they can ask as Nobel Laureate Burton Richter did in confronting a dumb shit anti-nuke, whether more people than the discovered "victims" - should they exist - would have died were nuclear energy avoided.

Since this is a sort - "I'm not an anti-nuke" anti-nukes and straight up honest anti-nukes - who don't open science books, and whine about and/or vilify people who do, this while whining about things like "ad hominem" attacks and "strawmen" that they learned in what appears to be a third grade logic class, they can't actually produce a quantitative statement of risk.

Nor do people engaged in this kind of whining understand that risk may involve pursuing a dangerous course of embracing what doesn't work at the expense of what does work to replace a risky system.

Risk quantitation - for which there is very sophisticated mathematics, and indeed now oodles of commercial and academic software - is important since every energy system features risk, but some are way riskier than others. Thus a system incapable of replacing or addressing a highly risky system is itself risky since it can't reduce risk.

Fifty years of inane cheering for solar energy has produced no result, if - and this is what I believe - the only result that matters is displacing dangerous fossil fuels, thus acting against both climate change and human suffering and death, reducing the risk of either or both. Unhappily the proportion of energy obtained from dangerous fossil fuels - they are dangerous because they kill whenever they operate normally - is rising not falling, while an asinine international community throws trillions upon trillions of dollars on so called "renewable energy."

It's doing nothing.

If there were anti-nukes who were were able understand risk analysis, and they're not, they might understand why the question of air pollution is relevant to any discussion of any form of energy, but it's clear they just don't give a shit. They have their selective attention heads up their asses:

They can't or won't make simple comparisons.

Nor can they understand, any more than a journalist who never passed a college level science course, that radiation may (and does) have uses, and in fact, given that these uses can accomplish what few other systems can accomplish as easily - for instance breaking fluorine carbon bonds - it may be dangerous to not accumulate used nuclear fuel.

Now to return to the point of anti-nukes whining that they're not anti-nukes:

I once was helping a friend paint is apartment, and he was telling me what his wife told him about what her friend said we should and could do the job, but his wife's friend wasn't there. I said, "don't tell me what you could do, man. Show me."

I don't care what people say they are. What matters to me is what they show themselves to be.

Donald Trump says, "he's a very stable genius."

I say he's a blithering unintelligent idiot; my opinion on this score unshakable. No amount of whining or crying by anyone can shake this opinion.

I don't give a fuck what he says about anything except to the extent that he encourages other stupid people.

As for one obscure anti-nuke or another, or even a famous anti-nuke, stating he or she is not an anti-nuke, I don't care about that either, except to the extent that other abysmally ignorant people join them to make stupid comparisons between the putative safety of useless forms of chimeric energy that don't work - so called "renewable energy" in this case - and forms of energy that do work, even when attacked repeatedly and loudly by blithering idiots, presently nuclear energy.

Nuclear energy saves lives because it prevents the use of dangerous fossil fuels.

German carbon intensity.

French carbon intensity.

One can access the current data at these links at any time of day on any day during any week and see which country is burning more coal in 2022.

In the United States, nuclear power is nearly 3/4 of a century old. In that time - punctuated by catcalls about "danger" the industry has a vanishingly small record of causing injury and death, this while producing prodigious amounts of energy, slowing the use of coal and gas. This calls into question whether any idiot at the Associated Press or elsewhere is remotely rational in inventing a "danger."

It doesn't matter if dumb shit "I'm not an anti-nuke" anti-nukes know shit from shinola about energy density, or the toxicology related to the semiconductor industry, or how batteries are made, or how steel and aluminum are made. They don't, but no matter.

The solar industry is dangerous because he relies on the use of dangerous fossil fuels to back it up and thus, because it is incapable of arresting the use of dangerous fossil fuels or even the growth of it's use. Fossil fuels kill whenever they are used. The toxicology and low energy to mass density are just icing on the cake.

When anti-nukes, including "I'm not an anti-nuke anti-nukes" announce, however, that they "do their own research" it has a familiar ring, which is why I place a precise equivalence between anti-nukes and anti-vaxxers. In both cases, their ignorance kills people.

We're over 421 ppm concentrations of the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide in the planetary atmosphere this week. Anti-nukes of various stripes, obvious, honest, or deliberately disingenuous would be slightly more interesting if they actually cared about stuff that mattered.

They don't.

May 13: 421.95 ppm
May 12: 421.87 ppm
May 11: 421.71 ppm
May 10: 421.13 ppm
May 09: 419.36 ppm
Last Updated: May 14, 2022

Recent Daily Average Mauna Loa CO2

Tell me if I should congratulate all the assholes in the media and elsewhere who were so concerned about used nuclear fuel while these accumulations happened?

Or don't tell me. I couldn't fucking care less.

Have a pleasant Sunday.

Eko

(7,281 posts)
4. Some more info from the AP
Sun May 15, 2022, 12:05 AM
May 2022

High-level radioactive waste primarily is uranium fuel that has been used in a nuclear power reactor and is "spent," or no longer efficient in producing electricity. Spent fuel is thermally hot as well as highly radioactive and requires remote handling and shielding. Nuclear reactor fuel contains ceramic pellets of uranium-235 inside of metal rods. Before these fuel rods are used, they are only slightly radioactive and may be handled without special shielding.

During the fission process, two things happen to the uranium in the fuel. First, uranium atoms split, creating energy that is used to produce electricity. The fission creates radioactive isotopes of lighter elements such as cesium-137 and strontium-90. These isotopes, called "fission products," account for most of the heat and penetrating radiation in high-level waste. Second, some uranium atoms capture neutrons produced during fission. These atoms form heavier elements such as plutonium. These heavier-than-uranium, or "transuranic," elements do not produce nearly the amount of heat or penetrating radiation that fission products do, but they take much longer to decay. Transuranic wastes, sometimes called TRU, account for most of the radioactive hazard remaining in high-level waste after 1,000 years.

Radioactive isotopes eventually decay, or disintegrate, to harmless materials. Some isotopes decay in hours or even minutes, but others decay very slowly. Strontium-90 and cesium-137 have half-lives of about 30 years (half the radioactivity will decay in 30 years). Plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years.

Oh wait, thats from the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission, good enough for ya?

hunter

(38,310 posts)
5. It was fun to see this meaty post back at the top again.
Sun May 15, 2022, 02:56 PM
May 2022

I'm some kind of Luddite so my opposition to nuclear power was because it works, not because I fear any sort of nuclear wastes or accidents. Fossil fuel wastes and accidents are clearly worse in every measurable way.

Nobody freaks out when a gas explosion levels an entire hotel or neighborhood, the kinds of accidents that happen fairly frequently. But some people are still freaking out about Fukushima, an accident that was caused by a giant tsunami and not any ordinary negligence. The non-nuclear toxins spilled by the tsunami certainly had larger environmental impacts than the nuclear loss of cooling accident, and the death toll of the tsunami itself was unimaginably worse.

"Peak Oil" didn't make me fearful, it made me optimistic that we humans might be forced to live within our means. But that was proven wrong. It's now clear there's enough natural gas in the ground to destroy the natural world as we know it, yet people still think it's a relatively "clean" source of backup power for their renewable energy follies. They say it's "better than coal" and other such nonsense, which is like arguing about the best way to execute prisoners. We're all prisoners.

In recent years I began to think about how dependent we all are on high density energy sources. Even the poorest person living in a slum, someone who can't afford shoes let alone a bicycle, is dependent on high density energy sources for their food and probably their water too, no matter how wretched the quality of that food or water is.

For now most of that high density energy is supplied by fossil fuels. If we don't quit fossil fuels as soon as possible very bad things are going to happen, worse than are happening now.

Nuclear power is the only energy resource capable of displacing fossil fuels entirely.

Watching energy data almost obsessively, all of it readily available on the internet on sites such as CASIO, it's become clear to me that aggressive renewable energy schemes in places like California, Denmark, and Germany have failed, and they won't "save the world." At this assertion affluent renewable energy enthusiasts (who tend to be quite wealthy by world standards) will wave their arms and say something about batteries and other fanciful forms of storage that simply don't exist, and cannot exist, at the necessary scale. Nobody is going to give that guy who can't afford shoes or a bicycle a Tesla Powerwall. But maybe everyone can have safe shelter, clean water, and reliable electricity.

The other argument is that "Perfect is the enemy of good." The problem is hybrid gas/renewable energy systems are not good. If they are widely adopted around the world they will only prolong our dependence on natural gas and probably increase per capita environmental footprints and greenhouse gas emissions as well.

An electric power grid is made out of iron and aluminum. It doesn't require any exotic materials. The dreaded wastes of nuclear power plants, unlike fossil fuels, can be captured and contained indefinitely. There's no energy source capable of supporting all the world's cities and agricultural industries that has a smaller environmental footprint than nuclear power.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
6. This remark you make is the real crux of the issue.
Tue May 24, 2022, 08:47 PM
May 2022

This:

Nobody is going to give that guy who can't afford shoes or a bicycle a Tesla Powerwall. But maybe everyone can have safe shelter, clean water, and reliable electricity.


Energy, I think, is a basic human right, or should be. There will never be enough solar cells, wind turbines, and batteries (or hydrogen electrolysis units) or land for this stuff to make that happen.

I have heard over the years from bourgeois "solar will save us" types that China is terrible because they release so much carbon dioxide. This argument assumes that the Chinese should have agreed to remain impoverished so that Americans could declare themselves "green."

Poverty is involved in much of the cause of this awful situation in which we find ourselves.
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