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Judi Lynn

(160,525 posts)
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 09:27 PM Jan 2022

Scientists watched a star explode in real time for the first time ever

By Brandon Specktor published about 8 hours ago

Supernovas may be way more violent than we thought.



An artist's rendition of a red supergiant star transitioning into a Type II supernova, emitting a violent eruption of radiation and gas on its dying breath before collapsing and exploding. (Image credit: W. M. Keck Observatory/Adam Makarenko)

Astronomers have watched a giant star blow up in a fiery supernova for the first time ever — and the spectacle was even more explosive than the researchers anticipated.

Scientists began watching the doomed star — a red supergiant named SN 2020tlf and located about 120 million light-years from Earth — more than 100 days before its final, violent collapse, according to a new study published Jan. 6 in the Astrophysical Journal. During that lead-up, the researchers saw the star erupt with bright flashes of light as great globs of gas exploded out of the star's surface.

These pre-supernova pyrotechnics came as a big surprise, as previous observations of red supergiants about to blow their tops showed no traces of violent emissions, the researchers said.

"This is a breakthrough in our understanding of what massive stars do moments before they die," lead study author Wynn Jacobson-Galán, a research fellow at the University of California, Berkeley said in a statement. "For the first time, we watched a red supergiant star explode!"

More:
https://www.livescience.com/first-supernova-real-time-observations?utm_source=notification

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Scientists watched a star explode in real time for the first time ever (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jan 2022 OP
Wow!! Lunabell Jan 2022 #1
Pretty cool. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2022 #2
'real time' actually means we saw what happened 120 million years ago rurallib Jan 2022 #3
Gravitational lensing - an Einstein Cross gives you several chances to see the same event Xipe Totec Jan 2022 #5
"Real time" here means they got before-and-after observations caraher Jan 2022 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #4
BURRRRRRRP. AllaN01Bear Jan 2022 #6
Some astronomers think Betelgeuse is due to go supernova. LudwigPastorius Jan 2022 #7
Just don't say "Betelgeuse" three times fast before the scientists are ready. Beastly Boy Jan 2022 #8
I do the very same thing. SergeStorms Jan 2022 #11
Damn! This is fantastic. Pinback Jan 2022 #9
Now, if Orange supergiant LSR2020tfg would the same... The Unmitigated Gall Jan 2022 #12
According to Dr. Stormy Daniels... LudwigPastorius Jan 2022 #13
and what continually amazes me is... Javaman Jan 2022 #14

OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts)
2. Pretty cool.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 09:37 PM
Jan 2022

Score 1 for humanity! We saw something that no one else was capable of seeing....we keep moving forward.

rurallib

(62,407 posts)
3. 'real time' actually means we saw what happened 120 million years ago
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 09:44 PM
Jan 2022

but we actually saw what happened, not the clues left in the aftermath.

This is where my head gets confused.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
5. Gravitational lensing - an Einstein Cross gives you several chances to see the same event
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:18 PM
Jan 2022

While gravitationally lensed light sources are often shaped into an Einstein ring, due to the elongated shape of the lensing galaxy and the quasar being off-centre, the images form a peculiar cross-shape instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_Cross

So, if a star in an Einstein cross goes supernova, the four images of the star will arrive at different times; months or even years apart. So once you see the first star in the cross explode, you just wait for the next one to do so.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
10. "Real time" here means they got before-and-after observations
Tue Jan 11, 2022, 12:26 AM
Jan 2022

So yes, it happened 120 million years ago. But usually we don't know precisely when a star will explode, so we don't see the process unfold, just the aftermath.

In this case they had observations spanning the time before, during, and after the explosion, so it was "real-time" in that sense.

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

LudwigPastorius

(9,137 posts)
7. Some astronomers think Betelgeuse is due to go supernova.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:38 PM
Jan 2022
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01633-4

Since I read that, I make sure and look up at Orion's shoulder every time I go out to put the trash on the curb at night.

Who knows? I might get lucky.

Beastly Boy

(9,320 posts)
8. Just don't say "Betelgeuse" three times fast before the scientists are ready.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:53 PM
Jan 2022

You never know who might appear

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
11. I do the very same thing.
Tue Jan 11, 2022, 12:26 AM
Jan 2022

I doubt it will happen in the time I have remaining on the planet, but you never know.

It may have already happened and the light hasn't reached earth yet. It's a mere 550 light years away, so who knows.

Pinback

(12,154 posts)
9. Damn! This is fantastic.
Tue Jan 11, 2022, 12:05 AM
Jan 2022

I'm reminded of one of my favorite science fiction novels, Nova by Samuel R. Delany, which includes an account of a manned spaceship flying dangerously close to a star as it goes nova.

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