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Judi Lynn

(160,415 posts)
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:08 AM Apr 2022

Time might not exist -- but that's okay


By Sam Baron published about 12 hours ago

Does time exist? The answer to this question may not be as obvious as it first seems.




Does time exist? The answer to this question may seem obvious: Of course it does! Just look at a calendar or a clock.

But developments in physics suggest the non-existence of time is an open possibility, and one that we should take seriously.

How can that be, and what would it mean? It’ll take a little while to explain, but don’t worry: Even if time doesn’t exist, our lives will go on as usual.

A crisis in physics
Physics is in crisis. For the past century or so, we have explained the universe with two wildly successful physical theories: general relativity and quantum mechanics.

More:
https://www.livescience.com/time-might-not-exist?utm_source=notofication
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Time might not exist -- but that's okay (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2022 OP
Interesting... Mike Nelson Apr 2022 #1
Time certainly applies to the 40 hour work week SouthernDem4ever Apr 2022 #2
I cannot even remember the last time I worked a 40 hour week Skittles Apr 2022 #6
I think that article's title is click-bait. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2022 #3
There is only a moment...there is only the now...we "invent" time... ashredux Apr 2022 #4
+1... that's how I see it... Then again the definition of moment is related to mitch96 Apr 2022 #24
Ah...you seem to get it.... Mbius Strip ashredux Apr 2022 #27
Mbius Strip....way above my pay grade... All I know for sure mitch96 Apr 2022 #29
Missed that one...ooops..missed again....ooppps ashredux Apr 2022 #31
Star Wars objectively exists. But on a few levels, its existence is dependent on its audience. FreepFryer Apr 2022 #5
Ah! Harker Apr 2022 #8
Who screamed? :) FreepFryer Apr 2022 #9
Not me. Harker Apr 2022 #11
I shied away from spaghetti and xenobiology for sure :) (Nt) FreepFryer Apr 2022 #19
Ha. That's a scream. n/t Harker Apr 2022 #22
Still love that movie! BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #23
Every year is getting shorter Martin Eden Apr 2022 #7
Time doesn't exist for birds and animals, gab13by13 Apr 2022 #10
A cuckoo bird knows what time it is. n/t Harker Apr 2022 #12
....... KS Toronado Apr 2022 #18
They probably have lots of words for time BWdem4life Apr 2022 #33
String Theory is meeting an empirical death in the Large Hadron Collider. speak easy Apr 2022 #13
Don't be too sure of that. Duppers Apr 2022 #25
Next up ... is reality a VR simulation? :) speak easy Apr 2022 #26
I'm glad they are taking the time to explore this theory... cayugafalls Apr 2022 #14
Well...time may not exist... Trueblue Texan Apr 2022 #15
Just a little, gab13by13 Apr 2022 #16
Is that how UFOs fly so fast? KS Toronado Apr 2022 #17
I was taught in my elementary particle physics class BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #20
Time flies like an arrow lonely bird Apr 2022 #21
I've been playing with these ideas for a long time... hunter Apr 2022 #28
Fascinating stuff. Ron Obvious Apr 2022 #30
Well, at least causation still exists. That's something. scipan Apr 2022 #32

Mike Nelson

(9,941 posts)
1. Interesting...
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:40 AM
Apr 2022

... Time is a way humans and book authors measure things. Particles, loops, and chunks don't think about measuring anything.

Skittles

(153,103 posts)
6. I cannot even remember the last time I worked a 40 hour week
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 06:20 AM
Apr 2022

although I am now down to 48 hours from 53 last year

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
3. I think that article's title is click-bait.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 06:05 AM
Apr 2022

If time isn't a fundamental feature of our universe, but rather emerges from other fundamental aspects of it, that doesn't mean that time doesn't exist.

That would be like saying molecules don't exist because they're composed of more fundamental chemical elements.

mitch96

(13,869 posts)
24. +1... that's how I see it... Then again the definition of moment is related to
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 08:45 AM
Apr 2022

time. A beginning and end. If there is no time then there is no beginning or end?
m

mitch96

(13,869 posts)
29. Mbius Strip....way above my pay grade... All I know for sure
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 11:54 AM
Apr 2022

is that things change... oops? did you see it? it changed again...
m

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
5. Star Wars objectively exists. But on a few levels, its existence is dependent on its audience.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 06:19 AM
Apr 2022

It’s also fictional.

Martin Eden

(12,838 posts)
7. Every year is getting shorter
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 06:40 AM
Apr 2022

Never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught
Or half a page of scribbled lines

gab13by13

(21,217 posts)
10. Time doesn't exist for birds and animals,
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 07:12 AM
Apr 2022

If a bird could speak and someone asked it what time it was, it would not have an answer.

What is the definition of eternity? Is it endless time, or no time?

BWdem4life

(1,638 posts)
33. They probably have lots of words for time
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 04:33 PM
Apr 2022

Morning time, day time, night time, time for a bath, time to build a nest, time to fly south, time for the human to fill the feeder...

BumRushDaShow

(128,258 posts)
20. I was taught in my elementary particle physics class
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 08:00 AM
Apr 2022

that "time" was a "4th dimension". Of course that has always been in debate. In "practical" terms - I could see that in my 3D (I think LC) plots back in the day, where each axis (X-Y-Z) represented some value (e.g., signal level, concentration, detector frequency change) and "time" would become a 4th via a series of "snapshots" of such a plot.

So it's basically something that "doesn't exist" on its own until, I suppose, we "'manually' make it exist". That's why it keeps "changing".



But...



hunter

(38,300 posts)
28. I've been playing with these ideas for a long time...
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 11:25 AM
Apr 2022

... probably since I was a mildly psychotic teenager a long ways ago (for me anyways), within a sphere 100 light years in diameter.

Here's a DU post of mine from more recent days, Fri Mar 22, 2013, 10:05 AM, to be precise...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1018341220#post26

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
30. Fascinating stuff.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 12:00 PM
Apr 2022

The more I learn about quantum and what not, the more open I become to the notion that we're living in a simulation, or even that everybody but me is part of that simulation.

It seems that the more we think we understand the nature of reality, we zoom in and reveal another layer of complexity. Probably just as well. Keeps things interesting anyway.

scipan

(2,333 posts)
32. Well, at least causation still exists. That's something.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 01:41 PM
Apr 2022

So, time is an emergent property of space? Or gravity? Unfortunately it doesn't make much sense to me.

As an old person, I know my subjective time is running faster and faster.

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