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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 10:32 AM Dec 2014

Scientists reveal the ancient origins of drinking alcohol

There’s an emerging branch of research called Paleogenetics that tries to answer the questions of the present by scrutinizing the genetic material of the past. And when it comes to figuring out when drinking alcohol began — igniting both merriment and alcoholism — you need to go pretty far back: 10 million years. That was when some curious primate stumbled across a rotting piece of fruit and thought, “Why not?” And boom, drinking was born.

That’s at least how a new theory published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences describes it. The consumption of alcohol, which otherwise wouldn’t have been palatable and might have been poisonous, was an evolutionary boon when our ancestors descended from the trees and started looking for food.

“Evolutionary biologists such as myself study so much peculiar and fascinating examples of organisms adapting to their environment, there is a cliche in our field: ‘Life will find a way,’” lead author Matthew Carrigan wrote in an e-mail to The Washington Post. “So when I began this research, I thought, ‘If ethanol is present in naturally fermenting fruit, why shouldn’t some frugivores adapt the molecular machinery to digest it?”

At the center of this molecular machinery is an enzyme called ADH4. This is a very important enzyme: first, because it’s found in a primate’s throat, stomach, and tongue; and second, because it is the first enzyme that can metabolize alcohol, including ethanol and other alcohols found in plants. So Carrigan and other researchers went about the task of analyzing ADH4?s evolutionary history by resurrecting ancient enzymes, believing it would tell them when such consumption began.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/12/05/scientists-reveal-the-ancient-origins-of-drinking-alcohol/?postshare=6901417785693649

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Scientists reveal the ancient origins of drinking alcohol (Original Post) n2doc Dec 2014 OP
I learned something new today. Thx DU! ffr Dec 2014 #1
We're not the only ones that like a good piece of rotting fruit. progressoid Dec 2014 #2
The herons must be the Temperance League douggg Dec 2014 #5
LOLOL! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #6
That was fascinating...and kinda funny, too. nt MADem Dec 2014 #7
Birds get drunk too passiveporcupine Dec 2014 #3
12 flap program? PeoViejo Dec 2014 #4
Again? Cleita Dec 2014 #8
Paleogenetics sounds like a fascinating field of study. bvf Dec 2014 #9
At One Time.... cynzke Dec 2014 #10
Plenty of animals get drunk VA_Jill Dec 2014 #11
Flowering plants evolved 60 million years ago sarge43 Dec 2014 #12

ffr

(22,665 posts)
1. I learned something new today. Thx DU!
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:10 PM
Dec 2014

My only question about the article is whether the discovery is a theory yet or still a hypothesis. Can it be tested and retested, having the same results. Sounds like it could, but how could it be tested? That's my dilemma.

Gonna have a beer and think about it.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
3. Birds get drunk too
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:55 PM
Dec 2014

National Geo has a story right now about birds (Cedar Waxwings and others) that get drunk on fermenting berries in the fall, and some even have to go to rehab till they recover to keep them safe. LOL

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. Again?
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 02:13 AM
Dec 2014

I think that fermented berries and fruit probably got a lot of species drunk long before we arrived on the scene and I'm sure accidental fermentation of grains and fruits that our ancestors had gathered and stored led to brewing cool stuff. But this isn't new.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
10. At One Time....
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 10:59 AM
Dec 2014

in history, viticulture fueled the world economy. From the growing of grapes to the production and sale of wine, it drove the economy for many centuries. The Catholic church through the monasteries turned viticulture and wine production into the a commodity whose sales profits became the church's primary source of income.

VA_Jill

(9,941 posts)
11. Plenty of animals get drunk
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:55 AM
Dec 2014

Gerald Durrell has a hilarious description in one of his books of a bunch of young bachelor elephants getting into some fermenting fruit and behaving for all the world like a pack of drunken frat boys, weaving and carrying on and hurling fruit at one another. And my daughter reported deer coming into her yard from the neighboring state park, eating fermenting berries from some bushes they had and getting throughly soused, which probably accounted for several deer vs. MVA encounters on local roads.

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