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WHOA!!! ATHEISTS!!! Take a chill pill!!! (Original Post) backscatter712 Jan 2012 OP
LOL! frogmarch Jan 2012 #1
Perfect. +infinity! cleanhippie Jan 2012 #2
next we'll start a war right? stuntcat Jan 2012 #3
That cartoon describes some of the... EvolveOrConvolve Jan 2012 #4
I've been through that myself. Quartermass Jan 2012 #5
I can rec this! n/t MarkCharles Jan 2012 #6
Perfection!!!! nt aka-chmeee Jan 2012 #7
Nicely done! rexcat Jan 2012 #8
Heheh sakabatou Jan 2012 #9
K&R Scuba Jan 2012 #10
Please cross post this... PassingFair Jan 2012 #11
OK! n/t backscatter712 Jan 2012 #12
and I just served on that jury ;) iverglas Jan 2012 #13
It must have been left unhidden. PassingFair Jan 2012 #14
flamebait iverglas Jan 2012 #15
The alerter posted in the thread over at the Religion group EvolveOrConvolve Jan 2012 #16
I think it's clear that Rug was the other alerter.... PassingFair Jan 2012 #17
No, I didn't alert on it. rug Jan 2012 #18
Well that's comforting. nt PassingFair Jan 2012 #20
Were your ears burning, or do you lurk here? laconicsax Jan 2012 #21
I subscribe here. rug Jan 2012 #22
I'm just curious why you, a Christian, read this group. laconicsax Jan 2012 #23
I'm interested in the topic. rug Jan 2012 #24
What's your interest? EvolveOrConvolve Jan 2012 #25
I am not now nor have ever been one, Senator. rug Jan 2012 #26
I'm suggesting that this is probably not the best place for you EvolveOrConvolve Jan 2012 #42
Thank you for your concern. rug Jan 2012 #45
To the contrary EvolveOrConvolve Jan 2012 #46
What do you try to gain by reading these threads? laconicsax Jan 2012 #27
I get a better perspective of atheism on other sites. rug Jan 2012 #28
Ah, so you're not interested in the topic so much as the people. laconicsax Jan 2012 #29
Not really. rug Jan 2012 #30
Do you actually know who the people are? laconicsax Jan 2012 #31
To the extent they post on the rest of DU as well as here. rug Jan 2012 #32
You make it sound like stalking. laconicsax Jan 2012 #33
Neither. rug Jan 2012 #34
I dropped in on those a couple times on DU2 and was underwhelmed by the lack of activity. laconicsax Jan 2012 #35
"Living with atheism is as problematic as living with religion."? How would you know? mr blur Jan 2012 #36
I've heard it right here many times. rug Jan 2012 #37
Link, or it didn't happen. n/t laconicsax Jan 2012 #38
Why don't you look at the cartoon at the top of this thread. rug Jan 2012 #41
I'll take that as an admission that you made it up. n/t laconicsax Jan 2012 #43
Believe what makes you happy. rug Jan 2012 #44
Wrong group for that... n/t deacon_sephiroth Jan 2012 #47
there may have been more than one alert iverglas Jan 2012 #19
I feel very sorry for Juror #6 RueVoltaire Jan 2012 #39
lol, K&R Soylent Brice Jan 2012 #40
Dude needs to keep his atheist beliefs to himself. He'll create a scene. (nt) stone space May 2014 #48
Iverglas! AtheistCrusader May 2014 #49
 

iverglas

(38,549 posts)
13. and I just served on that jury ;)
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 04:06 PM
Jan 2012

Haven't seen the outcome yet. My comments are signed.

Could I just point out that the cartoon is easily generalizable and there may be some reading who identify with the poor atheist in the cartoon (I do, as a member of the group -- not so much as an individual, since being Canadian I never run into this kind of thing in real life) who might do well to consider that.

As a feminist, I have lived that scenario for, oh, over four decades now ... and continue to live it at DU regularly. Why, just yesterday, I was being called (directly or as a member of the group) an hysteric, a pearl-clutcher, a Puritan, a prude, gripped by frothy rage, an advocate of censorship, blah de blah de blah. None of it true, all of it noise to drown out dissent and prevent discourse.

What's sauce for the atheist is sauce for the feminist, the activists for LGBT rights, the activist for the rights of people of colour and other minorities ... hell, the gun control advocate ...

 

iverglas

(38,549 posts)
15. flamebait
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 06:47 PM
Jan 2012

And really, it kinda was. And my second thoughts were along the lines of juror #6, but on balance I think the alert kinda made the point in the cartoon.

The Religion group doesn't seem to be designed as a safe haven for the religious, from what I can tell.



ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

Flame bait and has no substance

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Jan 8, 2012, 03:05 PM, and the Jury voted 1-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I couldn't have said it better myself; in fact, replace "atheist" with "feminist" and it's exactly what happened to me yesterday right here at DU. As some are fond of saying: truth hurts? (No one in particular is attacked here, and the fact is that this is exactly how things often go - if not at DU, certainly in real life.) - iverglas

Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given

Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: The message is spot-on. Flame bait and has no substance? - FAIL

Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given

Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Alerting on a stinkin' cartoon? Get a life, any life.

Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: The small groups are supposed to be places of refuge. This seems to violate that concept. I vote to hide it on that basis. The cartoon itself is inoffensive if elsewhere, but not in the religion group. The fact it was crossposted tells me there may not have been pure motives in posting it to the Religion Group. (also signed but I'm deleting name)

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
16. The alerter posted in the thread over at the Religion group
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 06:58 PM
Jan 2012

He/she says that he/she was not able to see the image and that was the reason for the alert.

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
17. I think it's clear that Rug was the other alerter....
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 07:32 PM
Jan 2012

because he thinks that people should not cross post?

Or something?

The 6th juror seems to think that the Religion/Theology Group
shouldn't have atheist posters in it.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
18. No, I didn't alert on it.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 08:09 PM
Jan 2012

The fact that I think it's juvenile doesn't mean I think it should be hidden.

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
23. I'm just curious why you, a Christian, read this group.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:29 AM
Jan 2012

You may have noticed that I posted a thread on the subject a while back. You didn't respond, perhaps out of bashfulness, but I'm very interested in hearing your reason.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
26. I am not now nor have ever been one, Senator.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:50 AM
Jan 2012

You know perfectly well I'm neither.

Are you proposing you need to be either to read and post?

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
42. I'm suggesting that this is probably not the best place for you
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:11 PM
Jan 2012

The question was rhetorical, but you knew that, being yourself a master of rhetoric.

There are plenty of believers that would be welcome to post here, because I'd trust that they respect the safe haven nature of the group. Based on your history, I doubt you are one of those.

BTW, the insinuation of communism is nearly enough to get you blocked from this group. If you don't understand why, then this definitely is not the place for you.

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
27. What do you try to gain by reading these threads?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 01:14 AM
Jan 2012

Does it help in your understanding of our perspective?
Does it satisfy a need for gossip?
Is it for entertainment?

I'm genuinely curious here.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
28. I get a better perspective of atheism on other sites.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 01:26 AM
Jan 2012

What I find interesting here is what is important to different known personalities and how they deal with it in the context of atheism. That is a perspective few other sites provide.

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
29. Ah, so you're not interested in the topic so much as the people.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 01:35 AM
Jan 2012

I nominate you to be the president of the DU Atheist and Agnostic fan club.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
30. Not really.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:07 AM
Jan 2012

Living with atheism is as problematic as living with religion. It's more enlightening if you know who the people are.

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
31. Do you actually know who the people are?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:09 AM
Jan 2012

Names on an anonymous forum are rarely the whole story.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
32. To the extent they post on the rest of DU as well as here.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:15 AM
Jan 2012

I know and have known many atheists. Posting about atheism on DU is a highly distilled version.

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
35. I dropped in on those a couple times on DU2 and was underwhelmed by the lack of activity.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:34 AM
Jan 2012

I think the first page on one of them went back a few years.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
36. "Living with atheism is as problematic as living with religion."? How would you know?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 08:50 AM
Jan 2012

Living with atheism isn't a problem at all.

Perhaps it's different in the US, where atheists seem to be vilified and demonised, but I fear this says more about "people of faith" (whichever faith) than atheists.

 

iverglas

(38,549 posts)
19. there may have been more than one alert
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 08:48 PM
Jan 2012

If an alert is unsuccessful, the alertee isn't notified of the alert or the decision/reasons.

That's why I posted the results of the jury I was on here.

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