Sometimes I wish only forum subscribers could alert and serve on juries.

[Ron Obvious]

't would be a happier world.

[LostOne4Ever]

1. It would definitely keep stupid hides from happening

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]Maybe we need to take a page from the BOG and start posting:[/font]

This is a posting in the Atheists and Agnostics Group

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]at the bottom of all our OPs?[/font]

[libodem]

2. hmmm?

Maybe?

[Rainforestgoddess]

3. It would be good if people were limited to one

Alert per day or something, too. Then you'd have to make it count.

[JimDandy]

29. It would be interesting to know if

any DUer is alerting more than once a week, let alone once a day. In my 9 years here, I've alerted only a total of about 20 times. I have gone days without seeing a hidden post on DU and I read here almost every day lately, so there can't be a ton of alerts every day. I don't think a limitation like that is need.

Now that I think about it, it actually may be necessary on the overnight shift for people to have the ability to alert more than once, since the site is probably less populated then, which would provide an opportunity for trolls to create mischief.

[Rainforestgoddess]

32. Personally I've only alerted on spam

But there are some people who alert on everything they can just to force the objects of their attention into a forced vacation.

This cannot be proven, of course, but when one person is repeatedly alerted on, while in the same thread another with similar or worse behaviour is left alone, it seems pretty obvious there's personality getting in the way.



*waves at the forum nannies*

[AlbertCat]

4. Maybe each of us should repost it

.... till the adults have a chance to see it before the children who are oh so sensitive have a kanipshin.

[Curmudgeoness]

5. I'll see your wish, and up it.

I also wish that only subscribers to groups were able to enter the group at all, so that the haters and trolls could not use groups as fishing expeditions for something to be outraged about.

I know that there was not anyone from this group that sent an alert on that post....and I am at a loss as to how it even got a hide. It was a real story being reported and I don't understand the butt hurt of the alerter or the jury.

[onager]

6. Obviously I agree 1000%...

Since I just got nailed by a thread-nanny (again). Hidden by 4-3 decision.

And thanks to that self-identified woman on the jury who voted to "leave it." She obviously understood that one word does not a sexist post make...especially since I posted a video featuring one of the world's most out-front and famous feminist action groups.

That's some irony, right there. Almost as ironic as being constantly monitored, policed and censored on a board allegedly dedicated to free speech and lack of censorship.

I'm starting to wonder if DU has been invaded by North Korea.

[kdmorris]

7. I wondered if "that word" was what got it hidden

Really? Can we only call our mammary glands "breasts"?

Or is even that too much... too graphic?

What a fucking stupid hide that was...

[onager]

12. Yep, it was "that word."

I'd post the Alert & jury results for you, but I think that's illegal or something.

When it comes to language on DU, we seem to be hurtling backwards to the Victorian Era. So you probably shouldn't use "breasts" either. Might traumatize somebody.

Oscar Brand had some suggestions in this song from 1955, "Ode to the Four-Letter Words." Which may earn my second Hide of the day, but I don't much care any more:

(Chorus) Four-letter words, those four-letter words
That never say quite what you mean.
We'd rather be known for our hypocrite ways
Than as vulgar, impure and obscene.

A woman has bosoms, a bust or a breast
Those lily-white swellings that bulge 'neath her vest
They are towers of ivory, sheaves of new wheat
In moments of passion, ripe apples to eat.
You may speak of her nipples as fingers of fire
With hardly a question of raising her ire
But by Rabelais' beard, she will throw several fits
If you speak of them, roundly, as good honest...

(Chorus)

So let's banish those words that Elizabeth used
When she was Queen Virgin and itched on her throne
The modern maid's virtue is easily bruised
On meeting the four letter words all alone.
Let your morals be loose as an alderman's vest
If your language is weaseling, vague and obscure
Today not the act but the word is the test
Of the vulgar, salacious, illegal, impure...

(Chorus)

http://www.horntip.com/mp3/1950s/1957_bawdy_songs_vol_7_bawdy_songs_goes_to_college_(LP)/02_ode_to_the_four_letter_words.htm

[Warren Stupidity]

15. There is nothing illegal at all about posting jury results. Please do post it.

[onager]

17. OK, here you go - Alert and Jury Results

On Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:59 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

BABY JEBUS KIDNAPPED BY TOPLESS WOMAN!1!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/123032705

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Bare "tits" is sexist and crude and should be hidden, even in a "protected group". Please hide.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sun Dec 28, 2014, 11:01 AM, and voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No.

Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: There is nothing wrong with the word tits, bare or not. Yes, I'm a female and use it all the time.

Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Seems the past week, DUers have lost their minds.

Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I am opposed to this verbiage of women's breasts.

Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

[Doctor_J]

18. Juror 4 considers the use of the word tit a symptom of one losing his mind

I sort of wish alerters and jurors were ID'd so we could go and ridicule them

[cleanhippie]

28. Showing who alerted and who voted on a jury should be the next change.

Take the anonymity out of it and watch the alerts disappear.

[Doctor_J]

31. I almost never alert, but when I do, I usually post a reply to that effect

I know we're supposed to be underground, but that seems like courtesy.

[kdmorris]

21. That is just sad

All I can do is shake my head.

I agree whole-heartedly with Juror #3.

Yes I am a female and yes I use it all the time... I also call them boobs or boobies... but whatever.

That was NOT a righteous hide.

[Curmudgeoness]

8. Since whoever was trolling here looking to be outraged

will surely be watching for the backlash from us, I just want say that this was a pathetic way to fight dirty. Hope you are proud.

[Doctor_J]

9. you got a hide for using the word tit?

Moments like that give hate radio jocks fodder for their cartoonish portrayal of liberals

[Ron Obvious]

10. Just for you...

A European Crested Tit:

[Doctor_J]

19. I always thought that referred to Elizabeth Hurley

Last edited Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:56 PM - Edit history (1)

thanks for clearing that up

[Rainforestgoddess]

23. A really nice tit!

I love tits.

[JDDavis]

11. I agree. Your wish should certainly be true for "safe havens" such as this.

Only members of such groups should have the power to protest/report a post.

Any outright stifling of the sharing of ideas, publications, concepts, humor, etc. in a "safe haven" should only happen when the terms and conditions of that group are seriously violated by a topic OP.

By the time I got to see the topic, the thread was already locked and the O P was not even viewable.

[LostOne4Ever]

13. Wanted to add one thing

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]If I understand correctly, people blocked from a group can still subscribe, view, and rec posts in said group.

Being blocked should make you ineligible for alerts or serving on juries here.

Also, we should all make sure our jury blacklists are updates![/font]

[Warren Stupidity]

14. It more or less defeats "safe havens".

It used to not matter so much when a hide was just a hide. Now people are out headhunting because the reward for success is high.

[onager]

16. For those who missed it - the video from the OP...

It's a FEMEN protest at the Vatican on 12/25/2014. A shirtless woman kidnaps Baby Jebus from the manger, right in the middle of a big Nativity ceremony.

On the woman's exposed chest, for those who get the vapors over Certain Words, is written the message "God Is A Woman." I only mention that because some sites censored both the bare chest and the message. This clip is uncensored, at least so far:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=86c_1419519307&safe_mode=off

[progressoid]

24. Heh.

That post has 14 recs. Turns out we can rec a locked thread!

[TreasonousBastard]

20. Maybe, but that might give some forum members license to...

get genuinely vile with the support of the group. There is one DU group fast becoming legendary for its incendiary vibes.

But probably couldn't get worse than it is now with the word police out in full force.

Might I suggest an alternative-- every post in, say, this group, include a variation on the phrase "Man, them's some bitchin' tits!"

Every post will then be alerted on and cause general anger and confusion until they just shut up.

(I will take my hide on this one "for the cause.&quot

[Doctor_J]

22. Rec this bitchin' reply ^^^

Maybe I should use as my sig line Jim Belushi's famous insult to Elizabeth Perkins in "About Last Night...". If I didn't think it would serve as a hijack point for every thread for the rest of time, I might just do it.

[RussBLib]

25. any way to petition the mods to make that happen?

it makes eminent sense to me.

[trotsky]

26. Meh, let 'em.

If they are that fucking obsessed with us that they have to come in here (via the long way - so many have gotten themselves blocked due to their behavior so they can't Subscribe anymore) to read all our posts looking for something to snag a sympathetic jury with, fine.

[Warren Stupidity]

33. There are no "mods". There are only hosts and they have close to no power.

You can petition the admins over in ask the administrators and you can get 'splained why it is the best of all possible worlds as is.

[RussBLib]

34. the best of all possible worlds

anyone who would claim that is as deluded as the believers are.

[cleanhippie]

27. If that were the case, how would narcissistic ******* keep their feelings of accomplishment?

on edit: I removed the word "douchebags", as it may be offensive to narcissists.

[JDDavis]

30. Very wise to edit that word out

So no arrogant believer would think we atheists actually see their natural character. And then try to hide our post.

Hiding posts is so effective, you know. Like hiding the facts about how most organized religions work.

Uh Oh, did I say that?