Atheists & Agnostics
Related: About this forumThe miracle of a bridge hand.*
53,644,737,765,488,792,839,237,440,000 to 1.
Every time you deal the cards, it's a miracle!
*Brought about by discussions elsewhere regarding the miracle of life on earth, the argument from improbability.
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)TYY
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)And when the improbable does happen, that does not mean "miracle". We still have a lot to learn about the beginnings of life on earth, but just because we do not have the answers as to how it occurred, it does not mean that the only explanation is that it had to be created by God. All it means is that we don't have all the answers yet. And I do believe that we will never have all the answers. So what?
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)And then improbable things eventually become real.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)that we learned about an experiment trying to replicate the conditions that produced life from chemical reactions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment
We have to realize that we do not know all the conditions that came into play at that time on earth, so that Miller-Urey were able to create the building blocks of life, amino acids, is significant.
There have been further studies that have created other components of life since then. It really could be a matter of time and more specific information before some form of life can be recreated in a lab. But it doesn't matter to me whether it can be done or not. Just because we are unaware of one component in the atmosphere at the time does not mean that it is impossible for life to arise.
http://evolutionfaq.com/faq/have-scientists-ever-created-life-laboratory
bvf
(6,604 posts)whether rolling three consecutive snake-eyes with fair dice increases or decreases the chance of snake-eyes coming up on a fourth roll, and you'll get a good handle on the average person's grasp of probability and statistics.
onager
(9,356 posts)Not long ago, somebody actually tried a simpler version of the dice-roll on me - the old coin-flip question:
"If you flip a coin and it comes up 'heads' three times, what are the odds it will come up 'tails' on the next flip?"
He must have thought I was an idiot. Which I have to admit is sometimes a fair bet.
But I gave him the right answer: "Assuming a fair coin, the odds are exactly the same as the first time you flipped it - 50/50."
I recently read a bio of a truly demented, crazy and amateur gambler who (like many of that type) thought he was an expert: "Colonel" Tom Parker, manager of Elvis Presley.
Parker loved roulette, and apparently believed he could stare at the roulette wheel and make it land on the right number, thru the sheer force of his will.
The Colonel didn't always want to mix with the hoi-polloi in the casino, so he often had a roulette wheel brought up to his suite. Where he would sometimes hedge by betting every number on the board.
Which may explain one story an old friend told about Parker - in the early 1960s, at one small Kentucky bank, Parker had a personal account holding about $7 million. A few years after Presley started playing Vegas, that account was empty. And Parker was a notorious tightwad, when it came to just about everything except gambling.
bvf
(6,604 posts)Sad and crazy to piss money away like that, but Presley didn't always hang with the smartest people.
I used to tell the guy that ran a lotto pool (picking six numbers from one to 44, I think) in an office I worked in that I'd play as long as the numbers picked were 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6. I got a really odd reaction to that.
NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)...would come around during the super bowl and march madness and ask if I wanted in for $20....
and every time I would raise my arms in a touchdown stance and proclaim:
"WOO WHO!, I just won $20!"
After about the 5th year he stopped asking...
...after the 7th year he was indicted for providing kick backs to public officials for contracts...
I think he spent ~1 year in jail
Well dressed, overtly likable, everyone best bud...but still a dim jerk
I think he lives in ohio now...
bvf
(6,604 posts)We have enough problems as it is!
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)'God did it' just means 'I have no fucking idea'.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)(paraphrasing)
"The universe is very old and very big and amazing coincidences happen all the time."