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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 10:56 PM Apr 2015

Carl Sagan Appreciation Thread

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[font color=black size=3 face=Georgia]"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."


-- Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot, 1994[/font]


November 9, 1934 - December 20, 1996




Please post your favourite quotes and pictures.


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Carl Sagan Appreciation Thread (Original Post) beam me up scottie Apr 2015 OP
I can directly attribute my atheism to Carl Sagan EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #1
When he said that he wished he could believe his parents lived on it comforted me. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #20
Always a rec for Carl Sagan mountain grammy Apr 2015 #2
Me too. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #14
I watched Cosmos growing up... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #23
Big fan. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #3
The new Cosmos has me interested in learning more about this man. nt flygal Apr 2015 #4
Welcome (and Sagan Bump) onager Apr 2015 #5
Yes that is Beryl Markham flygal Apr 2015 #8
I watched the new series but it just made me miss Sagan. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #15
I still need to see it... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #24
A kick for Carl. deucemagnet Apr 2015 #6
Nice. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #16
kick rec edgineered Apr 2015 #7
Thanks! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #22
Kick and rec for one of the greatest people this world has ever known. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #9
He was one of a kind. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #17
Some quotes that I like Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #10
That first one is probably my favorite, and I've used it in my sig line before. trotsky Apr 2015 #11
the "d" word! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #13
yes, this one RussBLib Apr 2015 #25
So many favorite quotes from him. But in these times... LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #12
Perceptive. Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #18
Wow...that is scarily accurate. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #19
Please feel free. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #28
I left my copy of The Demon Haunted World on my desk at work beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #21
That is so romantic! LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #27
I wish I had been more aware of him while he was alive Lordquinton Apr 2015 #26
If Sagan were alive today he would be branded a New Atheist and slandered. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #29

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
1. I can directly attribute my atheism to Carl Sagan
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 11:09 PM
Apr 2015

I wish for eternal life if only so Sagan could be around forever.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
20. When he said that he wished he could believe his parents lived on it comforted me.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:26 PM
Apr 2015

After my mom died I felt the same way.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
2. Always a rec for Carl Sagan
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:26 AM
Apr 2015

I feel lucky that he was alive during my lifetime. As I type, in the background I'm hearing a voice on the teevee saying imagine what it was like to live in the time of Jesus. No way! I'm glad I got to live in the time of Carl Sagan.

onager

(9,356 posts)
5. Welcome (and Sagan Bump)
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:16 AM
Apr 2015

Don't think I've seen you around these parts. If you've been posting here a long time, I apologize. I'm old and easily confused. (Lurking Cyber-Missionaries: not THAT confused.)

That looks like Beryl Markham in your avatar. I'm a big fan of aviation history, so here's a link to the most famous woman aviator nobody ever heard of - Laura Ingalls (no relation to the "Little House On The Prairie" author).

Ms. Ingalls was the first human to fly all of South America solo, and the first woman to solo over the Andes.

Largely forgotten today, I guess, because she was convicted of working for the Nazis. It probably didn't help that she lived in Burbank, CA, very close to a huge strategic asset, the Lockheed aircraft factory:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Ingalls_(aviator)

flygal

(3,231 posts)
8. Yes that is Beryl Markham
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 01:06 PM
Apr 2015

I don't think I've posted in this forum before. I just saw the Carl Sagan post and find him very interesting.

Thanks for the link!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
15. I watched the new series but it just made me miss Sagan.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:20 PM
Apr 2015

I hope Neil deGrasse Tyson will continue to appeal to children, got to get them hooked on science when they're young.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
9. Kick and rec for one of the greatest people this world has ever known.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 02:08 PM
Apr 2015

Truly an inspiration.

Some ones I liked:







And of course, all of his more well-known quotes as well. The man was brilliant.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
17. He was one of a kind.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:23 PM
Apr 2015

Those are great, I wish he would have lived longer. Imagine if he could have gone to Mars...

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
10. Some quotes that I like
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 05:45 PM
Apr 2015

that are pertinent today:

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.


Oh no, did he say the "d" word!

We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology.


And possibly my favorite.....

A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
11. That first one is probably my favorite, and I've used it in my sig line before.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 05:53 PM
Apr 2015

But those other two are some of his best as well.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
18. Perceptive.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:24 PM
Apr 2015

And it seems to have come much sooner than he would have hoped.

That book had a lot of great quotes....like the whole book.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
21. I left my copy of The Demon Haunted World on my desk at work
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:32 PM
Apr 2015

and I was "discovered" by two other closeted atheists.

Where I live and work that's huge.

One started leaving little heathen love notes, the other started fixing things for me at night. They didn't identify themselves for weeks.

A love story.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
26. I wish I had been more aware of him while he was alive
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 01:29 AM
Apr 2015

He died well within my lifetime, but I didn't realize it at the time, all the more reason to treasure todays great thinkers, Nye, Tyson, Dawkins, et-all, while we still can.

As an aside I was at the book store today and just happened to find this in the bargin cart:



(there was a hard cover as well, but paperback is so much easier to read)

Goes on the shelf next to Hawkings and Cox.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
29. If Sagan were alive today he would be branded a New Atheist and slandered.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 12:18 PM
Apr 2015

Just look at what they're doing to Tyson - and he's a teddy bear.



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