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Thu Apr 2, 2015, 10:56 PM

Carl Sagan Appreciation Thread

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[font color=black size=3 face=Georgia]"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."


-- Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot, 1994[/font]


November 9, 1934 - December 20, 1996




Please post your favourite quotes and pictures.


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beam me up scottie Apr 2015 OP
EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #1
beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #20
mountain grammy Apr 2015 #2
beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #14
awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #23
rhett o rick Apr 2015 #3
flygal Apr 2015 #4
onager Apr 2015 #5
flygal Apr 2015 #8
beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #15
awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #24
deucemagnet Apr 2015 #6
beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #16
edgineered Apr 2015 #7
beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #22
F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #9
beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #17
Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #10
trotsky Apr 2015 #11
beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #13
RussBLib Apr 2015 #25
LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #12
Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #18
F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #19
LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #28
beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #21
LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #27
Lordquinton Apr 2015 #26
beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #29

Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 11:09 PM

1. I can directly attribute my atheism to Carl Sagan

I wish for eternal life if only so Sagan could be around forever.

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Response to EvolveOrConvolve (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:26 PM

20. When he said that he wished he could believe his parents lived on it comforted me.

After my mom died I felt the same way.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:26 AM

2. Always a rec for Carl Sagan

I feel lucky that he was alive during my lifetime. As I type, in the background I'm hearing a voice on the teevee saying imagine what it was like to live in the time of Jesus. No way! I'm glad I got to live in the time of Carl Sagan.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:14 PM

14. Me too.

I used to watch Cosmos with my dad.

Carl Sagan inspired millions.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 10:25 PM

23. I watched Cosmos growing up...

 

we were lucky.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:39 AM

3. Big fan. Thanks for posting. nm

 

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 03:57 AM

4. The new Cosmos has me interested in learning more about this man. nt

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Response to flygal (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:16 AM

5. Welcome (and Sagan Bump)

Don't think I've seen you around these parts. If you've been posting here a long time, I apologize. I'm old and easily confused. (Lurking Cyber-Missionaries: not THAT confused.)

That looks like Beryl Markham in your avatar. I'm a big fan of aviation history, so here's a link to the most famous woman aviator nobody ever heard of - Laura Ingalls (no relation to the "Little House On The Prairie" author).

Ms. Ingalls was the first human to fly all of South America solo, and the first woman to solo over the Andes.

Largely forgotten today, I guess, because she was convicted of working for the Nazis. It probably didn't help that she lived in Burbank, CA, very close to a huge strategic asset, the Lockheed aircraft factory:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Ingalls_(aviator)

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Response to onager (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 01:06 PM

8. Yes that is Beryl Markham

I don't think I've posted in this forum before. I just saw the Carl Sagan post and find him very interesting.

Thanks for the link!

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Response to flygal (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:20 PM

15. I watched the new series but it just made me miss Sagan.

I hope Neil deGrasse Tyson will continue to appeal to children, got to get them hooked on science when they're young.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 10:26 PM

24. I still need to see it...

 

I guess I will just have to buy the DVDs.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:08 PM

6. A kick for Carl.

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Response to deucemagnet (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:20 PM

16. Nice.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:57 PM

7. kick rec

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Response to edgineered (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:34 PM

22. Thanks!



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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 02:08 PM

9. Kick and rec for one of the greatest people this world has ever known.

Truly an inspiration.

Some ones I liked:







And of course, all of his more well-known quotes as well. The man was brilliant.

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Response to F4lconF16 (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:23 PM

17. He was one of a kind.

Those are great, I wish he would have lived longer. Imagine if he could have gone to Mars...

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 05:45 PM

10. Some quotes that I like

that are pertinent today:

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.


Oh no, did he say the "d" word!

We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology.


And possibly my favorite.....

A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 05:53 PM

11. That first one is probably my favorite, and I've used it in my sig line before.

But those other two are some of his best as well.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:12 PM

13. the "d" word!

Yes he did.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 10:57 PM

25. yes, this one

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 06:11 PM

12. So many favorite quotes from him. But in these times...

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Response to LiberalAndProud (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:24 PM

18. Perceptive.

And it seems to have come much sooner than he would have hoped.

That book had a lot of great quotes....like the whole book.

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Response to LiberalAndProud (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:26 PM

19. Wow...that is scarily accurate.

actually, you should post this in GD, or I will if you'd like

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Response to F4lconF16 (Reply #19)

Sat Apr 4, 2015, 04:50 AM

28. Please feel free.

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Response to LiberalAndProud (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:32 PM

21. I left my copy of The Demon Haunted World on my desk at work

and I was "discovered" by two other closeted atheists.

Where I live and work that's huge.

One started leaving little heathen love notes, the other started fixing things for me at night. They didn't identify themselves for weeks.

A love story.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #21)

Sat Apr 4, 2015, 04:47 AM

27. That is so romantic!

Three heretics in one workplace. What are the odds? Lucky you.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Sat Apr 4, 2015, 01:29 AM

26. I wish I had been more aware of him while he was alive

He died well within my lifetime, but I didn't realize it at the time, all the more reason to treasure todays great thinkers, Nye, Tyson, Dawkins, et-all, while we still can.

As an aside I was at the book store today and just happened to find this in the bargin cart:



(there was a hard cover as well, but paperback is so much easier to read)

Goes on the shelf next to Hawkings and Cox.

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Response to Lordquinton (Reply #26)

Sat Apr 4, 2015, 12:18 PM

29. If Sagan were alive today he would be branded a New Atheist and slandered.

Just look at what they're doing to Tyson - and he's a teddy bear.



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