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onager

(9,356 posts)
Fri May 15, 2015, 07:47 AM May 2015

"Islam was never a religion of peace."

NOTE: Posted in the Atheists/Agnostics Group, a safe haven where we do unto religion what religion has done unto us.

Who said that? Pam Geller? Geert Wilders? Somebody on DU?

No, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi said that. He's the head of ISIS who has been MIA for many months. His rantings are on a just-released audiotape:

"Islam was never a religion of peace. Islam is the religion of fighting. No one should believe that the war that we are waging is the war of the Islamic State. It is the war of all Muslims, but the Islamic state is spearheading it. It is the war of Muslims against infidels.

O Muslims, go to war everywhere. It is the duty of every Muslim."

The link below is the first one I found with the quote, which I just read from a Wire Report in the local paper.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1999584/isis-releases-new-audio-message-purportedly-from-leader-al-baghdadi/
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"Islam was never a religion of peace." (Original Post) onager May 2015 OP
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi said that. He's the head of ISIS left-of-center2012 May 2015 #1
True for ISIS, anyway. onager May 2015 #3
Yeah sort of like thatt mountain grammy May 2015 #10
Indeed nil desperandum May 2015 #2
ISIS's interpretation of Islam is like Westboro Baptist Church's interpretation of sinkingfeeling May 2015 #4
Unfortunately we can't really tell either of them they are "wrong." n/t trotsky May 2015 #6
Didn't say they were 'wrong' just 'crazy'. sinkingfeeling May 2015 #7
I'll take the WBC any day. Lordquinton May 2015 #14
He is just as correct as the folks who tell us it *is* a religion of peace, of course. trotsky May 2015 #5
At least he's honest. onager May 2015 #9
Yeah, that'll be the day! mountain grammy May 2015 #11
That's OK, I never thought it was. (nt) mr blur May 2015 #8
Religion of peace or not... AlbertCat May 2015 #12
Don't forget that religion is never the motivation when religious people do bad things. beam me up scottie May 2015 #13

onager

(9,356 posts)
3. True for ISIS, anyway.
Fri May 15, 2015, 08:35 AM
May 2015

While realizing he doesn't speak for all Muslims.

That would be wrong. Sort of like claiming that most American Xians are liberals plagued by a small minority of Fundamentalist Assholes.

mountain grammy

(26,573 posts)
10. Yeah sort of like thatt
Fri May 15, 2015, 10:00 AM
May 2015

But I would hesitate to say its unlike Christian fanatics. I believe the destruction of infidels wouldn't be beyond their belief system.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
14. I'll take the WBC any day.
Fri May 15, 2015, 06:04 PM
May 2015

I don't understand why they are the big boogy man of Christianity. They are a circus act traveling the nation piling out of cars. I'm trying to think of a large Christian organization that is going around grabbing territory, forcing religious laws on secular nations, led by someone who threatens violence for insults to his belief...

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
5. He is just as correct as the folks who tell us it *is* a religion of peace, of course.
Fri May 15, 2015, 08:59 AM
May 2015

And that frustrates the hell out of both extremes.

onager

(9,356 posts)
9. At least he's honest.
Fri May 15, 2015, 09:14 AM
May 2015

Just once I'd like to hear the Pope or Pat Robertson or Franklin Graham say:

"Xianity was never the religion of peace, love and understanding. It was always about having power over people. Especially their private parts. Because as all Sophisticated Theologians know, if we grab'em by the balls/ovaries, their hearts and minds will follow. Oh, the money is pretty good, too."

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
12. Religion of peace or not...
Fri May 15, 2015, 12:43 PM
May 2015

It's still a bunch of superstitious mumbo jumbo that holds people and nations back.... just like every other religion.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
13. Don't forget that religion is never the motivation when religious people do bad things.
Fri May 15, 2015, 05:39 PM
May 2015

Even when they say it is.

They're just atheists trying to make religion look bad.

Seriously.

Hitler was a closet atheist.

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