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onager

(9,356 posts)
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 09:29 AM Jun 2016

New Book - No, we're not hard-wired for belief.

Atheism is not a modern invention from the western Enlightenment, but actually dates back to the ancient world, according to a new book by a Cambridge academic – which challenges the assumption that humanity is naturally predisposed to believe in gods...

(The book) is, according to its author, partly “an attempt to excavate ancient atheism from underneath the rubble heaped on it by millennia of Christian opprobrium”.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/feb/17/atheism-has-ancient-roots-claims-new-study
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New Book - No, we're not hard-wired for belief. (Original Post) onager Jun 2016 OP
I've never been particularly impressed with the "hard wired" argument, no matter the subject. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #1
Well, what we're "hard-wired" for is to look for agency in everything. trotsky Jun 2016 #2
Steven pinker talks about the evolutionary edhopper Jun 2016 #3
What we are hard-wired for Curmudgeoness Jun 2016 #4
That's going on the request list at our local library! progressoid Jun 2016 #5

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
1. I've never been particularly impressed with the "hard wired" argument, no matter the subject.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jun 2016

Too often the arguments are really just unsupported post-hoc rationalizations for bad behavior... nevermind that the whole genetic determinism thing is just one big naturalism fallacy.

We aren't hard-wired to wear shoes, but we do. And I'd argue wearing shoes is better than not wearing shoes. Anyone who has tried to cross a gravel parking lot barefoot on a hot summer's day would probably agree.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. Well, what we're "hard-wired" for is to look for agency in everything.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 11:53 AM
Jun 2016

The problem comes when we make up an agent and then want to believe it's real.

edhopper

(33,479 posts)
3. Steven pinker talks about the evolutionary
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jun 2016

trait to love ice cream. Of course we didn't evolve to love something that was invented a few hundred years ago.
But what ice cream does is hit many wants and needs that we did evolve, fat, sweet, cool, etc...
I think religion is like that, there is an evolutionary component, but it isn't an instinct.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
4. What we are hard-wired for
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jun 2016

is questioning, awe, fear...and all of these things are answered by religion. Sadly, when you lean on religion for all your answers, you never experience these things totally. And if you use religion for all your answers, you will never seek answers. We might still be sacrificing virgins to volcanos if there were not people who looked into what caused them to erupt, or how to know when they might.

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