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Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:17 PM

what really pushed me to atheism was finding out most of what I learned as a kid

were lies shoved on me by some group or person who had something to gain from me accepting their lies.
Mostly in areas like social studies and religion as a kid but then into the kind of "common sense" as an adult that was all crap.

As the internet became more and more available and more and more information was available, I did a lot of searching to find out what was really true.

Since this is the atheist forum I will focus on religion.
I was raised Catholic and as I got older I left the church, but didn't exactly turn atheist right away. But when information became more available I just kept digging. Most everything I read pointed to religion as totally bogus. My most recent discovery is that early hebrews were actually polytheistic, not monotheistic as the claim is always made. Monotheism evolved.

I sit here now about 15 years into my quest and feel like there were a bunch of "christians" whose sole purpose in life was to steal the life from youth for their purpose. I so wish I could confront some of these people and ask them "Why?"

Why did you scare me with concepts of hell? and hurting my parents? and that sex was bad? and so on and on and on. Sometimes when I think about it I just get mad and feel so cheated.

Thanks for listening to my primal scream!

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Reply what really pushed me to atheism was finding out most of what I learned as a kid (Original post)
rurallib Apr 2018 OP
Farmer-Rick Apr 2018 #1
Doodley Apr 2018 #2
rurallib Apr 2018 #3
wasupaloopa Apr 2018 #4
BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #5
Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #6
A HERETIC I AM Apr 2018 #7
Freelancer Apr 2018 #8
Iggo Apr 2018 #9
gay texan May 2018 #10
rurallib May 2018 #11

Response to rurallib (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:28 PM

1. Welcome to the atheist club

It's tough coming out, especially in the South. Keep strong and follow the truth.

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Response to rurallib (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:30 PM

2. You weren't really cheated if those who taught you believed what they told you. You are

on a quest that they may never go on. Your eyes are open to the world that they only see through the prism of their religion.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:32 PM

3. I have no doubt many did not believe but had ulterior motives

to just keep the whole game rolling so they could extract what they wanted.

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Response to rurallib (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 12:00 AM

4. I was raised Catholic as was my brother. He is a priest and I am and never was a believer.

 

I think Emmanuel Kant’s answer to the question “what is enlightenment” says it all.

It is a very good read

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Response to rurallib (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 02:15 AM

5. I am an atheist and have been since I was about 11.

I have realozed that almost every atheist I know personally was raised in the Catholic faith. For some reason that particular religion really pushes people over the edge. I ordered comminion wafers for an appetizer to bring to my family's mock Easter dinner. I served them with salmon dip and they were a real hit.

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Response to rurallib (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 05:39 AM

6. Children are deliberately terrified

into believing utter nonsense. Objectively it is abuse. But it is accepted and protected by law.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 11:49 AM

7. If we treated religion like we treat alcohol and cigarettes...

meaning restricted it’s use, teaching etc until the age of 18 at least and coupled that with an education system like the Scandinavian countries have, religious beliefs would fall to virtually nothing inside 20 years

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Response to A HERETIC I AM (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 11:44 PM

8. Maybe a bible buy-back program to get the things off the street!

They do that to get rid of guns from time to time.

We could come up with craft projects using unwanted bibles -- like monitor stands and coffee tables. I always wanted a bible with a derringer inside it like in the movies. A plastic one would be fine (derringer, not bible).

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Response to Freelancer (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 12:53 PM

9. Bible Buy-Back.

Count me in!!!

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Response to rurallib (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 01:43 PM

10. I feel the same way

I can vividly remember being drug to church at the age of five, in the late 70's bible belt. My other sibling and I HATED it. It was a perfectly nice summer Sunday outside and i wanted to spend the day outdoors playing in the dirt with my Hot Wheels, instead of putting on a suit and tie and sitting around a bunch of people i didn't know.

After both of us throwing a huge fit and made to go anyway, i observed something once we were inside:

1. People became zombies. They were simply repeating patterns that they had been taught since they were small.

2. I seriously detested church music and having to sing it. It grates my nerves to this day.

After 3 attempts of dragging us there, they gave up. Dad tried to quasi-punish us by making us help him around the house on Sunday mornings which ended up backfiring because we thought it was fun

As i got older i noticed that religion was used to justify hate and to control people. At about 17, in the full height of the "Satanic Panic" in the 1980's, i was talked into attending a "rock music is bad" seminar. At this point in my life, "Led Zeppelin 2" was my everything and it was expanding my musical tastes into other bands of the era. This music provided me an escape from bullying, questions on my sexuality/gender, and it just put me in a good mood.

So i go to this thing, and as it progresses i'm getting angry, i mean fucking MAD, at all the bullshit i'm hearing. Hands clenched in fists of rage as Don McLean would say. Satanic backwards masking, satanic ceremonies taking place in the recording studio, and if you keep listening to this music you will do heroin, commit suicide and burn in hell....

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. I saw it for what it was: a power grab! These people wanted power over youth/people.

At the age of 17, the seed was planted. After numerous years of searching and reading, i discovered all of it was a truck load of prime USDA bullshit. At the age of 29, my monogrammed bible that was given to me as high school graduation present, got destroyed and placed into a recycle bin.



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Response to gay texan (Reply #10)

Thu May 10, 2018, 03:05 PM

11. aren't we glad we escaped?

I know I sure am - I look at the practicing Christians I know - most I know don't practice - and I think of how bound up their lives must be with ridiculous rules. Imagine if they were set free. But at some point you commit to keeping those chains.

thanks for your story.

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