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Sat Nov 24, 2018, 07:06 AM

Here's two men that enjoyed world travel and meeting new people

The death of this man was a huge loss to humanity.



This one, not so much

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Reply Here's two men that enjoyed world travel and meeting new people (Original post)
A HERETIC I AM Nov 2018 OP
Voltaire2 Nov 2018 #1
yankeepants Nov 2018 #2
fleur-de-lisa Nov 2018 #4
A HERETIC I AM Nov 2018 #6
3Hotdogs Nov 2018 #3
JayhawkSD Nov 2018 #5
defacto7 Nov 2018 #7
defacto7 Nov 2018 #8
RussBLib Nov 2018 #9
A HERETIC I AM Dec 2018 #10

Response to A HERETIC I AM (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2018, 07:23 AM

1. Yup.

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Response to A HERETIC I AM (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2018, 08:46 AM

2. Who is the second person? n/t

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Response to yankeepants (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 24, 2018, 09:36 AM

4. Christian minister who was killed when he repeatedly

approached a tribe of isolated people, even though it is illegal to do so. I think the tribe is on an island near Indonesia.

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Response to yankeepants (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 24, 2018, 12:35 PM

6. John Allen Chau, a Christian missionary from Alabama who just HAD to try and convince....

the inhabitants of a remote island in the Bay of Bengal, a tribe that famously wanted NOTHING to do with the outside world, that Jesus loved them.



https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredcows/2018/11/christian-missionary-killed-by-isolated-tribe-when-he-tried-to-convert-them/?fbclid=IwAR1MlMPKm8iLpQYeq3F0rYzXwWGENyTQA6XfZxyKLYY4ZlqpxikkUe-xB6A

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Response to A HERETIC I AM (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2018, 09:16 AM

3. If he's who I think he is, he was a great humanitarian who was trying to bring the word of Jesus to

some ignorant natives and they rejected his efforts. Now, they're really fucked. Its one thing if you never hear The Word. Your ass just gets into limbo, purgatory or Burger King.

But if you are given the opportunity to know The Word and reject it, your ass goes on a slow turning skewer and your food comes from what you are able to scavenge in the woods. Shame on you.



(Do yiz really need the sarcasm emoticon?)

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Response to A HERETIC I AM (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2018, 11:11 AM

5. Does anyone remember why the "new world" was opened up?

 

It was by people fleeing from societies where one religion/morality was imposed on everyone, including on those who believed otherwise. They fled to find a place where they could live and believe as they chose.

Missionaries try to impose a belief on others, whether those others want it or not. In this case there was violation of national and international law in order to fulfill that mission.

If you have a religious belief, good for you. Keep it to yourself.

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Response to JayhawkSD (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:06 PM

7. Yeah but Jesus said.... blah, blah...

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Response to A HERETIC I AM (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:16 PM

8. It's a win win for missionaries...

God will protect them from harm if they reach out to preach the gospel to the ends of the earth. But if he decides they should be martyrs then they will sit at the right hand of Jupiter... I... I mean Sol Invictus.. uh, Ela Gabal.. uh, Bramah... whatever it's name is.

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Response to A HERETIC I AM (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2018, 11:24 PM

9. Bourdain on Mexico

I was really sad when I learned of Anthony's suicide.

Ran across this recently on Facebook. Thought you folks might enjoy it.

Anthony Bourdain wrote:

"Americans love Mexican food. We consume nachos, tacos, burritos, tortas, enchiladas, tamales and anything resembling Mexican in enormous quantities. We love Mexican beverages, happily knocking back huge amounts of tequila, mezcal, and Mexican beer every year. We love Mexican people—we sure employ a lot of them. Despite our ridiculously hypocritical attitudes towards immigration, we demand that Mexicans cook a large percentage of the food we eat, grow the ingredients we need to make that food, clean our houses, mow our lawns, wash our dishes, and look after our children. As any chef will tell you, our entire service economy—the restaurant business as we know it—in most American cities, would collapse overnight without Mexican workers. Some, of course, like to claim that Mexicans are “stealing American jobs.” But in two decades as a chef and employer, I never had ONE American kid walk in my door and apply for a dishwashing job, a porter’s position—or even a job as a prep cook. Mexicans do much of the work in this country that Americans, probably, simply won’t do.

We love Mexican drugs. Maybe not you personally, but “we”, as a nation, certainly consume titanic amounts of them—and go to extraordinary lengths and expense to acquire them. We love Mexican music, Mexican beaches, Mexican architecture, interior design, Mexican films.

So, why don’t we love Mexico?

We throw up our hands and shrug at what happens and what is happening just across the border. Maybe we are embarrassed. Mexico, after all, has always been there for us, to service our darkest needs and desires. Whether it’s dress up like fools and get passed-out drunk and sunburned on spring break in Cancun, throw pesos at strippers in Tijuana, or get toasted on Mexican drugs, we are seldom on our best behavior in Mexico. They have seen many of us at our worst. They know our darkest desires.

In the service of our appetites, we spend billions and billions of dollars each year on Mexican drugs—while at the same time spending billions and billions more trying to prevent those drugs from reaching us. The effect on our society is everywhere to be seen. Whether it’s kids nodding off and overdosing in small town Vermont, gang violence in L.A., burned out neighborhoods in Detroit—it’s there to see. What we don’t see, however, haven’t really noticed, and don’t seem to much care about, is the 80,000 dead in Mexico, just in the past few years—mostly innocent victims. Eighty thousand families who’ve been touched directly by the so-called “War On Drugs”.

Mexico. Our brother from another mother. A country, with whom, like it or not, we are inexorably, deeply involved, in a close but often uncomfortable embrace. Look at it. It’s beautiful. It has some of the most ravishingly beautiful beaches on earth. Mountains, desert, jungle. Beautiful colonial architecture, a tragic, elegant, violent, ludicrous, heroic, lamentable, heartbreaking history. Mexican wine country rivals Tuscany for gorgeousness. Its archeological sites—the remnants of great empires, unrivaled anywhere. And as much as we think we know and love it, we have barely scratched the surface of what Mexican food really is. It is NOT melted cheese over tortilla chips. It is not simple, or easy. It is not simply “bro food” at halftime. It is in fact, old—older even than the great cuisines of Europe, and often deeply complex, refined, subtle, and sophisticated. A true mole sauce, for instance, can take DAYS to make, a balance of freshly (always fresh) ingredients painstakingly prepared by hand. It could be, should be, one of the most exciting cuisines on the planet, if we paid attention. The old school cooks of Oaxaca make some of the more difficult and nuanced sauces in gastronomy. And some of the new generation—many of whom have trained in the kitchens of America and Europe—have returned home to take Mexican food to new and thrilling heights.

It’s a country I feel particularly attached to and grateful for. In nearly 30 years of cooking professionally, just about every time I walked into a new kitchen, it was a Mexican guy who looked after me, had my back, showed me what was what, and was there—and on the case—when the cooks like me, with backgrounds like mine, ran away to go skiing or surfing or simply flaked. I have been fortunate to track where some of those cooks come from, to go back home with them. To small towns populated mostly by women—where in the evening, families gather at the town’s phone kiosk, waiting for calls from their husbands, sons and brothers who have left to work in our kitchens in the cities of the North. I have been fortunate enough to see where that affinity for cooking comes from, to experience moms and grandmothers preparing many delicious things, with pride and real love, passing that food made by hand from their hands to mine.

In years of making television in Mexico, it’s one of the places we, as a crew, are happiest when the day’s work is over. We’ll gather around a street stall and order soft tacos with fresh, bright, delicious salsas, drink cold Mexican beer, sip smoky mezcals, and listen with moist eyes to sentimental songs from street musicians. We will look around and remark, for the hundredth time, what an extraordinary place this is.

The received wisdom is that Mexico will never change. That is hopelessly corrupt, from top to bottom. That it is useless to resist—to care, to hope for a happier future. But there are heroes out there who refuse to go along. On this episode of “Parts Unknown,” we meet a few of them. People who are standing up against overwhelming odds, demanding accountability, demanding change—at great, even horrifying personal cost."

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Response to RussBLib (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 02:04 AM

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